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rainbow_carnage wrote: »I don't get tipped, either, but that's taken into account during salary negotiation. Does your salary reflect an expectation that you will get tipped? If not, then your argument is worthless. That's just the way the system works. If no one tipped, then waiters would be paid more. Consequently, your meal would be more expensive. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. You only have to look at societies where tipping is not part of their culture (i.e. Japan).
I get paid minimum wage, I don't work in an area where tipping is expected, I'm not that interested in how much other cultures charge for a meal and at no point did I state I had an arguement. All I am doing is posting my point of view.
I am sorry that my opinion is not the same as yours but that is life.Are you an expert on employment law?
No - just asking a question in the way of a statement. I am asking what would happen if there were no tips? Would your husband only be paid £2 an hour? If so he should report his employer.It's not that you don't believe in tipping. You know that you should tip, but you only do it when someone else is looking
I don't know that i SHOULD tip. I just believe in rounding the bill up when splitting it between 6 people and giving the left over to the waiter.
The day out to Pizza hit is the first time we have eaten out as a family since September 2006. I simply can't afford to do it as money is so tight.
Maybe you should refresh your memory of the forum etiquette before ranting at other posters.......
Pls be nice to all MoneySavers. There's no such thing as a stupid question, and even if you disagree courtesy helps.They left £2 in cash. I hope they get hit by a bus.
Lovely - really makes you seem like a nice person.Official DFW nerd no 551 - proud to be dealing with my debts
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I read once that the line between frugal and stingy was when someone stops sharing or buying things of the same quality that they would for themselves for guests, presents for relatives etc. It makes sense to me.
Having said that, there are things I do that I wouldn't make other people do if they were my guests, like reusing tea-bags once or twice before throwing them away if I'm chain-drinking cups of tea.
With regard to tips, I see them as entirely optional, and generally don't pay them if they're treated as a default fee. It's not normal to tip people working in other low-wage jobs, so I don't see why I should have to bribe people in certain industries in order to receive reasonable service. I'd far rather give a tip for good service to someone who wasn't just being nice and helpful because they're expecting money for it, but because they'd gone above the level of service expected from someone in their position. The argument that good waiters know their stuff is irrelevant if you compare it to how much more knowledgeable, helpful and enthusiastic staff such as librarians or computer game shop assistants can be.0 -
He's so tight you could put a piece of coal up his bum and in two weeks it'd be a diamond.Mortgage: Was: £154,495 Oct 2039 Now: £82,340.34 May 2037Swagbucks ~ £155 (2024 ~ £395)Surveys ~ £153.19 (2024 ~ £280.14)Make £2025 in 2025 #5 ~ £964.62 ~ (2024 ~ £2,561.04)0
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A guy at work asked me to borrow 40p to buy a newspaper whilst we were at the supermarket, because he didn't want to split the new £5 note he had tucked away in his wallet.
I flatly refused and he was just being tight as he had the cash but wanted me to pay for it, and he probably hoped I'd be too embarrassed to ask for such as trifle sum back.0 -
My god...just read this thread. Thought the idea was to share a few stories and ideas not rip each other to pieces. I agree with most of the people here with regards to tips it is individual choice - some poeple simply can not afford to tip and why should they its not law? I myself used to work as a waitress and yes whilst it is nice to receive a tip i never expected it or frowned upon people who didnt tip. Why should they tip you for doing your job? I dont get tipped in my new job working in a supermarket - my boyfriend who is a chef doesnt get tipped for cooking the actual food - so why should we be expected to tip the person who carried the plate to the table? Comments like 'i hope he gets hit by a bus' - just shows what kind of person you are. Why would you wish that upon anyone!
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I worked as a waitress for several years, silver service ect and also a stint at a top hotel. It was just a job to get me through college but I was always helpful and polite regardless of the possiblilities of getting a tip, obviously it was nice to have a little extra but it wasn't the end of the world if I didn't get it, I certainly wouldn't wish harm on another person just because they didn't. I then worked as a NHS dental nurse and to be honest didn't get paid that much more for my efforts and certainly no tips despite knowing the ins and outs of the job and being very good at it and believe you me there is more to that job than waitressing on any level. But like most things in life, you have a choice - if the wages are crap, go somewhere else. To the poster complaining about tipping - you sound like an intelegent person, have you thought about doing a job that doesn't rely on tips as it seems to bother you quite a bit whe customers don't leave one?
If I have received good service I tip if not I don't - there's no law saying its compulsary!!!You cant have everything; where would you put it?Reclaimed: marbles c/card-£131.00,MBNA c/card-£385.00,Capital One c/card-£230.00,Natwest c/card-£248.68,Nationwide PPI-£1590.88,Nationwide c/card-£56.21,Barclays PPI-£2805.280 -
People know that I'm tight as a duck's bum when it comes to spending... but that I have a generous spirit when it comes to my friends, family, colleagues or anyone else I make contact with.
So they laugh when I start haggling on £85 for a new kitchen, but know that I'll buy them a drink when we go out, or more importantly I'll take the time to make them a personalised box of chocolates for their birthday. Therefore they do the same in returnMortgage | £145,000Unsecured Debt | [strike]£7,000[/strike] £0 Lodgers | |0 -
rainbow_carnage wrote: »And as someone who worked in bars and restaurants for many years, I am always appalled by people who somehow think that tipping is optional.
I think it's appalling that people are guilt tripped into tipping!...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Wow,
I started a right argument!
My landlord said im tight the other day. Im so proud its unreal though I used to be a spender!0 -
rainbow_carnage wrote: »I am always appalled by people who somehow think that tipping is optional. The person serving you is depending on tips to pay their rent and buy food.
:huh: Last I heard tipping IS optional. I have worked in several hotels and restaurants and never expected a tip. If someone depends on tips to supplement their wages then they should look into getting a different job. A lot of restaurants add a service charge automatically to the bill - you get no choice in paying for the service. I always tip if the service is good, but not because I feel pressured into doing it.Mortgage: Was: £154,495 Oct 2039 Now: £82,340.34 May 2037Swagbucks ~ £155 (2024 ~ £395)Surveys ~ £153.19 (2024 ~ £280.14)Make £2025 in 2025 #5 ~ £964.62 ~ (2024 ~ £2,561.04)0
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