Lost passport! Travel on non-UK one?

NornIronRose

Thank you. She is going to go to the passport office this morning as soon as they open to see if she can get anywhere. Nothing to lose.  

DullGreyGuy

If you look at the same day service (https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently/online-premium-service) you cannot use it if you have lost your current/old passport.

You cannot be denied entry to the UK if you are a British Citizen however you've got to be able to get to the border for that to be true and airlines won't check you in/allow you to board unless they are confident you have the right to enter your destination. 

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

silvercar

DullGreyGuy said:

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

That would work, though it would be inconvenient and take time. Travel out on the Algerian passport, while in  Morocco discover that she’s left her UK passport behind and contact the UK embassy in Morocco for emergency travel documents to travel back to the UK

DullGreyGuy

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

That would work, though it would be inconvenient and take time. Travel out on the Algerian passport, while in  Morocco discover that she’s left her UK passport behind and contact the UK embassy in Morocco for emergency travel documents to travel back to the UK

The OP says she's now cancelled the original passport so the "I left it behind" story won't fly and it would need to be the "I've intentionally created this situation" story instead hence not being popular

NoodleDoodleMan

Question.

Once the young lady gets her UK passport renewed there is probably a case for her considering ditching the Algerian one as it appears problematic to rely on it in this type of scenario ?

phatbear

DullGreyGuy said:

If you look at the same day service (https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently/online-premium-service) you cannot use it if you have lost your current/old passport.

You cannot be denied entry to the UK if you are a British Citizen however you've got to be able to get to the border for that to be true and airlines won't check you in/allow you to board unless they are confident you have the right to enter your destination. 

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

Well getting a passport urgently isnt going to work as you need to take the old passport with you, and if you cant then by definition it is lost/stolen and therefore the service could not be used. 

The main stumbling block, as mentioned, is its highly unlikely that the airline will allow the traveller to check in/board coming back to the UK. The airlines are very jittery, rightly so, of allowing incorrectly documented travellers onboard as they get fined and they are liable for removal of those passenger at the airlines expense. 

DullGreyGuy

NoodleDoodleMan said:

Question.

Once the young lady gets her UK passport renewed there is probably a case for her considering ditching the Algerian one as it appears problematic to rely on it in this type of scenario ?

Why ditch it? They may not be able to use it to easily enter the UK but it enables them to go to Algeria without a visa that would be required on their British one, given they've probably got family there seems likely they'll visit at times. I don't know about Algeria specifically but there are some countries in the world where they allow dual nationality but require their citizens to travel in or out of the country on their own countries passport not their secondary... the Mrs can only leave her country on her local passport (but can enter on her British)

There are other countries that its more useful than a British one like Benin, Ghana, Iran, Mauritania and a few Middle Eastern countries that aren't exactly tourist hotspots but 

silvercar

DullGreyGuy said:

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

That would work, though it would be inconvenient and take time. Travel out on the Algerian passport, while in  Morocco discover that she’s left her UK passport behind and contact the UK embassy in Morocco for emergency travel documents to travel back to the UK

The OP says she's now cancelled the original passport so the "I left it behind" story won't fly and it would need to be the "I've intentionally created this situation" story instead hence not being popular

Well another line then eg I thought I could travel home on an expired passport, but now realise I can’t. I agree it is all a bit difficult, frustrating as the daughter clearly has the right of entry to the UK.

phatbear

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

In theory should could fly out on her secondary passport and whilst in Morocco apply for an emergency travel document but that's verging on an abuse of process and unlikely to win her many friends and require her to go to the embassy in Rabat or consulate in Marrakech

That would work, though it would be inconvenient and take time. Travel out on the Algerian passport, while in  Morocco discover that she’s left her UK passport behind and contact the UK embassy in Morocco for emergency travel documents to travel back to the UK

The OP says she's now cancelled the original passport so the "I left it behind" story won't fly and it would need to be the "I've intentionally created this situation" story instead hence not being popular

Well another line then eg I thought I could travel home on an expired passport, but now realise I can’t. I agree it is all a bit difficult, frustrating as the daughter clearly has the right of entry to the UK.

You could, in theory, travel home on an expired british passport, assuming the airline would be willing to carry you, quite a few airlines T&C's state you need a relevant, extant, travel doc to use their service. 

NornIronRose

Update: she gave up in the end. Passport office first appt was in 2 days. She was beyond exhausted after 2 days with no sleep and night shift. I told her just to draw a line under it and go and sleep. Too much risk to go and be worrying that she wouldn't be allowed to board in either direction. 

It just wasn't meant to be. She just needs to come to terms with it, replace her passport (probably Irish one this time) and plan for the trip again. 

Thanks all for your help.