Paying for FTTP install

Rob5342

400ixl said:

Assume then that your current telephone / internet comes in over OpenReach owned telegraph poles? I doubt City Fibre or Virgin would get permission to use this, so they would have to provide their own method to get the fibre to the property across your land.

CityFibre tend to use a number of methods, installing their own ducting to the house, putting their fibre through existing Openreach ducts, hanging their fibre from Openreach telegraph poles or using their own telegraph poles. With me they put the fibre through the existing Openreach ducts but I have seen all the other methods used too. Presumably they pick an approach that covers most of a street and wouldn't want to spend the money on a different approach for just one house.

How are the other houses connected and what makes yours different? If they've put their own ducts in then it's odd that they didn't put a pavement box somewhere near your house. There are some houses near me where laying fibre looks problematic as they are set back from the road and have shared driveways, but CityFibre have still put a pavement box in for each house as close as they can.

iniltous

The chances are the OP if they have Openreach based service is via an underground cable buried directly in the ground , ( that’s why these Alt Nets are  not interested ) if they were serviced from a pole , City Fibre would use it ( they don’t need permission as such , they already have that via PIA arrangements ) and if the property were ducted by Openreach, the duct would connect to the same boxes that the neighbours can get City Fibre FTTP from ,  ( PIA covers poles, ducts , joint boxes )
VM now use PIA , they didn’t 20-30 years ago , I suspect VM has always been unavailable to the OP , and CF is a recent addition that neighbours can benefit from but not the OP .

The  statement  ‘I doubt City Fibre or Virgin would get permission’  is just plain wrong , they have simply chosen not to get involved with the ‘complications’ involved in getting service to the OP , they are under no obligation to go out if their way with problematic provisions , so they have chosen not to .

northernstar007

my street is just starting to get virgin installed, it looks like virgin are going to be using openrech ducts, atm they have digged a trench from it looks like there street cab to openrech duct, then i take it they be feeding up to the house, there is about 4 or 5 openreach ducts on the way to my house so i take it thats the route they be taking
1 thing that gets me is , its openreach ducts with only fttc, now why cant openrech say yes you can use our ducts but if u lay our fiber down at the same time, saves openrech labour costs

oh and another thing, how is virgin going to get there fibre connected to there network, they have been connecting estates behind mine that gets closer to the main part of the area, are they going to have to pull all the roads up or again use bt ducts where there fttc is which is about 1km meters away