New build FTTP can we have a Landline?

In the process of buying a new build retirement flat which I have been advised will have FTTP. 

From my research it appears that there is no traditional landline and so phones that use VOIP are required. I assume VOIP is the way forward, is it as good as a traditional landline? 

Is it possible to have a landline installed or is VOIP the only option? 

Thank you

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  • QrizB
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    If the flat is being built with FTTP, the chances of you getting a copper pair instead are virtually nil.
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  • Alphatauri
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    @Qriz I thought that might be the case.

    Thank you
  • Lorian
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    The only real downside is the phone may not work in a powercut. Plus some maybe a lot of the fttp deals now are broadband only. Wouldn't bother me I'd love the chance to get FTTP. I never use the landline now and I'm old.
  • iniltous
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    Assuming it’s Openreach FTTP , then it would be economic madness for them  to also provide an additional copper pair network for the odd user that is convinced that their life is in mortal danger , if they have a power cut , have no mobile coverage and may have an urgent need to call 999, so they ‘need’ a copper pair service, overlooking the fact that a copper pair landline could fail in the same circumstances….TBH there are many more complaints about people not having FTTP available than complaints about only  having FTTP .
  • Rob5342
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    edited 8 October 2023 at 8:08AM
    With something like BT digital voice your phone just plugs into the back of the router rather than the wall socket. It operates the same and the only difference is that it won't work in a power cut, but I think you can get a batter backup installed. Bear in mind that all telephones will switch over and be connected via the router within a few years, regardless of whether the router is connected by FTTP or not, so the build being FTTP makes is irrelevant.

    Do you really need a landline? Mobile phones are far cheaper.
  • J_B
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    Rob5342 said:
    Do you really need a landline? Mobile phones are far cheaper.

    Not everyone has good mobile signal.
    Not everyone has a mobile phone
    Some who have a landline are charged extra to call a mobile.
  • Alphatauri
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    @Rob3542 the property is for an elderly relative who is wedded to a landline. I will just buy VOIP phones.

    As there is 24/7 cover I am not worried about a power cut etc. in an emergency as there are alternatives on site. 
  • Blackjack_Davy
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    edited 9 October 2023 at 4:36PM
    Lorian said:
    The only real downside is the phone may not work in a powercut. Plus some maybe a lot of the fttp deals now are broadband only. Wouldn't bother me I'd love the chance to get FTTP. I never use the landline now and I'm old.
    Heh same here I'd jump at the chance theres only slow and I mean slow FTTC here I can't even get Virgin cable and theres a cabinet sitting on the street outside (virgin refuse to say why they won't cable up but presumably tied up in access permission with the freeholder as this place is leasehold)
    OP is really, really lucky FTTP to a flat? Its almost unheard of
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  • Alphatauri
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    @Blackjack_Davy you will appreciate this is a public forum so I have been light on detail. Given the flats were only completed in 2022 I did think FTTP was a possibility. 
  • ARTHUR
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    all the old copper wire landlines are getting scrapped in the next couple of years (2025) and replaced with fibre where you plug a VOIP phone into the back of your router, although there is still time to get a wired phone line there is no way that openreach would go to the expense of installing a cabinet and cables just to scrap in all two years later, as long as you have a good signal over your fiber then the VOIP phone will be great but be aware it wont work during a powercut
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