32A Commando socket instead of a dedicated EV charger?

Qyburn

markin said:

 I forgot nightly top ups, but if you have 2 cars and have to alternate charging or drive a good distance on the weekend the numbers get worse but probably just about works out.

Having two cars is another argument for granny leads, unless you want to splash out on two proper chargers, or get up in the small hours to switch cables over.

MeteredOut

Qyburn said:

markin said:

 I forgot nightly top ups, but if you have 2 cars and have to alternate charging or drive a good distance on the weekend the numbers get worse but probably just about works out.

Having two cars is another argument for granny leads, unless you want to splash out on two proper chargers, or get up in the small hours to switch cables over.

I can imagine, in future when 2-elec car households become more common, the need for a charging/cable product that has a time switch, allowing you to plug a single charge point into two cars, but only one of them getting a charge at any one time. It might need charge point support though, due to the handshake between the vehicle and the charge point.

Qyburn

MeteredOut said:

I can imagine, in future when 2-elec car households become more common, the need for a charging/cable product that has a time switch, allowing you to plug a single charge point into two cars, but only one of them getting a charge at any one time. It might need charge point support though, due to the handshake between the vehicle and the charge point.

I was thinking along those lines but maybe for workplace or public chargers. Each charger with multiple outputs and it switches between vehicles on a first come first served basis, or some other algorithm.

MeteredOut

Qyburn said:

MeteredOut said:

I can imagine, in future when 2-elec car households become more common, the need for a charging/cable product that has a time switch, allowing you to plug a single charge point into two cars, but only one of them getting a charge at any one time. It might need charge point support though, due to the handshake between the vehicle and the charge point.

I was thinking along those lines but maybe for workplace or public chargers. Each charger with multiple outputs and it switches between vehicles on a first come first served basis, or some other algorithm.

If the car industry really wanted to help, they'd build some sort of standard daisy-chaining mechanism into each car, so instead of waiting in a queue when a charge point is busy, you just plug into a car that's plugged into the charger (or into a car thats into a car into the charger etc). And the charger would time-slice the charge by whatever rules are determined to be the best fit.

Might also work for on-street parking too.

There would obviously be some physical limitations and I can't really see it happening.

lohr500

MeteredOut said:

Qyburn said:

MeteredOut said:

I can imagine, in future when 2-elec car households become more common, the need for a charging/cable product that has a time switch, allowing you to plug a single charge point into two cars, but only one of them getting a charge at any one time. It might need charge point support though, due to the handshake between the vehicle and the charge point.

I was thinking along those lines but maybe for workplace or public chargers. Each charger with multiple outputs and it switches between vehicles on a first come first served basis, or some other algorithm.

If the car industry really wanted to help, they'd build some sort of standard daisy-chaining mechanism into each car, so instead of waiting in a queue when a charge point is busy, you just plug into a car that's plugged into the charger (or into a car thats into a car into the charger etc). And the charger would time-slice the charge by whatever rules are determined to be the best fit.

Might also work for on-street parking too.

There would obviously be some physical limitations and I can't really see it happening.

It is a great idea but I can't see it happening either. I suspect not many owners would be happy with other drivers plugging a daisy chain lead into their car.

Imagine the insurance arguments if one or both of the the cars got damaged during the process either by the owners carelessness in making the cara to car connection, or by a failure in the system causing damage.

born_again

Qyburn said:

markin said:

 I forgot nightly top ups, but if you have 2 cars and have to alternate charging or drive a good distance on the weekend the numbers get worse but probably just about works out.

Having two cars is another argument for granny leads, unless you want to splash out on two proper chargers, or get up in the small hours to switch cables over.

We have 2 cars.
Since getting them in Mid August the total number of charges is 10. Over 52 days. Done around 1500 miles over that period between them.
So no need to get up & swap cable over.
Very few people will ever charge a EV every day, unless they are doing a lot of miles every day.

Now if you are only using granny chargers you might have to get up given the increased charge time. As running 2 for any length of time unless on dedicated supply, could be dangerous due to the combined load, which home wiring is not designed for.

born_again

Reed_Richards said:

The family say they may not have been aware of the blaze as it spread from the charging point outside to the front door had it not been for some strangers driving by their property and stopping to wake them.

So the fire started at a Charging Point, the thing that @born_again "knows" is safer than using a granny charger.  It's funny how people can "know" something without any actual evidence to back it up.

My contention remains that if you need to add more than 15 kWh of charge to your car overnight to avoid frequent use of public charging points then a Home Charger might save you money.  If you don't, then it is very difficult to justify the cost of a Home Charger on Money Saving grounds.

Of course the Daily mail is well known for it's 100% accurate reporting.
Charge point means nothing. Could simply be a 13 amp socket. No mention of who installed it etc.

Just like they reported a new EV was written off due to flooding in Sheffield when it actually was a 14 year old diesel car & the person (owner of car) who put it on Instagram stated as such & it was the electric gearbox that was the issue & could not be replaced. They even corrected the report, but still failed to report 14 YO diesel car...