32A Commando socket instead of a dedicated EV charger?

born_again

Reed_Richards said:

Many manufacturers say to only use a granny charger in emergencies.  Many experts say that batteries prefer to be trickle-charged.  Take your pick!  

Many experts can say that as they will not be the ones who could end up getting sued if the cause of a house fire was tracked back to a granny charger & no warning given.

I know which is the safer method 👍

Reed_Richards

markin said:

Then the is also a lot of cars out that don't seem to get 3 miles per kwh

Oh dear, I had hoped that 3 miles per kWh was a conservative estimate

born_again said:

Many experts can say that as they will not be the ones who could end up getting sued if the cause of a house fire was tracked back to a granny charger & no warning given.

I know which is the safer method 👍

My granny charger sits on the path outside my detached garage, plugged in to an exterior socket.  I fail to see how that will cause a house fire.  I would have thought that the greater the power, the greater the responsibility risk.  So I don't know which is the safer method.  Perhaps you could explain your knowledge in more detail?   

lohr500

Well I didn't keep my Mitsubishi PHEV long enough to burn down the house, but I only ever charged it using a granny charger.

The charger was located inside a detached garage, plugged into a quality MK socket with only the lead left outside.
 
The connector on the end of the lead was stored in a wall mounted weather proof holster on the side of the garage.

I used to leave the charger powered up 24/7 and just plugged in the vehicle each day when I got home.

I checked the plug and the charger quite a few times when the vehicle was charging and neither got warm to the touch.

If I were to buy another PHEV or full electric EV (which is unlikely) I would stick with a granny charger on off-peak rates to save the cost of a dedicated charging point and the associated cost.

born_again

Reed_Richards said:

My granny charger sits on the path outside my detached garage, plugged in to an exterior socket.  I fail to see how that will cause a house fire.  I would have thought that the greater the power, the greater the responsibility risk.  So I don't know which is the safer method.  Perhaps you could explain your knowledge in more detail?   

Read OP 👍

While yours maybe outside. many plug inside.

markin

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12602921/Family-lose-electric-car-catches-fire-sets-house-ablaze-three-children-sleeping-beds.html


"She added: 'It is so dangerous and they fitted the electric charging point at the front door so when it caught fire it blocked our escape route.

'We trusted it was all safe but when this was pointed out to us we realised just how lucky we are to be alive right now.

'I will never trust an electric van again.

'The fire service said we were lucky the battery didn't set fire or it would have burned for hours and been very dangerous."

Reed_Richards

The family say they may not have been aware of the blaze as it spread from the charging point outside to the front door had it not been for some strangers driving by their property and stopping to wake them.

So the fire started at a Charging Point, the thing that @born_again "knows" is safer than using a granny charger.  It's funny how people can "know" something without any actual evidence to back it up.

My contention remains that if you need to add more than 15 kWh of charge to your car overnight to avoid frequent use of public charging points then a Home Charger might save you money.  If you don't, then it is very difficult to justify the cost of a Home Charger on Money Saving grounds.

born_again

Just google
burnt out 13 amp socket uk

& look at some of the pictures. That is why a granny charger can be unsafe if people do not take care 👍

QrizB

born_again said:

Just google
burnt out 13 amp socket uk

If we're playing that game, try "burnt out electric car uk" or "burnt out petrol car uk" or "burnt out washing machine uk" or ... well, you get the idea.

rp1974

I'm liking this game,the BBC out clickbaiting the Daily Mail no less,see here:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67005620.
Little relevance to OP's question though thought It interesting.

Curious as to why people after forking out considerable sums for their EV want to cheap out on their chargers,akin to charging your £1000 phone with a £5 eBay charger and poundshop cable.
There's economy and there's false economy,which reading comments on EV foura seems to be the end result usually with cheap bodges.

Reed_Richards

rp1974 said:

Curious as to why people after forking out considerable sums for their EV want to cheap out on their chargers,akin to charging your £1000 phone with a £5 eBay charger and poundshop cable.

I can answer that.  You fork out a considerable sum for your EV because you can't buy cheap ones.  You do it either because:

1. You are motivated to save the planet by burning less fossil fuel 
2. You think you can save on the actual running costs so it will pay its way after a few years of use
3. You want a high tech vehicle to show off.

It could be a commination of any of those 3 factors.

In case 3 you'll probably want a high tech home charger.  In case 1 you may not care.  The person for whom case 2 is a major factor is the most likely to be reading a forum on money saving and will be most cost-conscious about charging their EV.  If they have not been railroaded into getting a Home Charger without thinking about it, they may consider that the benefit is not justified by the cost.

I can't tell you why anyone would want to pay £1000 for phone.