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Civil national business centre

Hi

Apologies if this has been answered already but received this letter from the Civil National Business Centre. Is this a CCJ?

I will do the AOS now but would just like advice on how to move forward and if this is winnable basically.

thanks 

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  • KeithP
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    Hello and welcome.

    No it is not a County Court Judgment - a CCJ - no Judgment has been made.
    It is a Claim Form.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 11th September, you have until Monday 2nd October to file an Acknowledgment of Service but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. 
    To file an Acknowledgment of Service, follow the guidance in the Dropbox file linked from the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 16th October 2023 to file your Defence.
    That's almost four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute. 
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look again at the second post on the NEWBIES thread - immediately following where you found the Acknowledgment of Service guidance.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing an Acknowledgment of Service, nor that for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
  • qazxswedc123
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    @KeithP
    Hi thanks for the reply

    so i have just done the AOS

    will start writing up my defence

    would i be able to also copy it in here before i submit just for a review of it

    thanks
  • B789
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    Of course it is winnable. Once you have filed your AoS, you will be ready to prepare your defence from the defence template thread. As the PoC are woefully inadequate, there is also a new case that should be cited in the defence because the PoC fail to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4 and the Practice Direction to Part 16.

    When you are ready to show us the paragraphs you have edited/added to the template defence, we will critique it as necessary before you send it as a PDF attachment in an email to the court and the claimant's solicitor.
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  • qazxswedc123
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    @B789
    thanks. let me get started on it 
  • Le_Kirk
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    @KeithP
    Hi thanks for the reply
    so i have just done the AOS
    will start writing up my defence
    would i be able to also copy it in here before i submit just for a review of it
    Yes, we encourage that so we can critique it and offer advice; just post paragraphs 2 & 3 and any you add here; we don't need to see the whole template.  Of course, you add the rest of the template back before you send your defence by e-mail to the address in the template defence thread.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 19 September at 8:11PM
    Same answer as this one except you don't need the point about Bransby Wilson, obviously.

    You do need the other words I just stated there:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6473607/county-court-claim-parking-no-lighting#latest

    And the screenshots. Two minutes ago I told that poster which one to copy from about that point, and you can do the same - but you need the 10.25% defence point as well.

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  • qazxswedc123
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    Le_Kirk said:
    @KeithP
    Hi thanks for the reply
    so i have just done the AOS
    will start writing up my defence
    would i be able to also copy it in here before i submit just for a review of it
    Yes, we encourage that so we can critique it and offer advice; just post paragraphs 2 & 3 and any you add here; we don't need to see the whole template.  Of course, you add the rest of the template back before you send your defence by e-mail to the address in the template defence thread.
    just a quick q. ithey issued a ticket as i was on a double yellow line but i was inside the vehicle. what would i mention as part of my defence? 

    thnaka
  • Le_Kirk
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    I cannot see on the POC in the claim form that you show upthread because you have redacted a lot of it; does it actually state that the breach is because you were on a yellow line?  Don't do the claimant's job for them.  Depends why you were still inside the vehicle; were you perhaps reading the terms and conditions on the sign or trying to pay by phone?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 23 September at 1:09AM
    Same answer as this one except you don't need the point about Bransby Wilson, obviously.

    You do need the other words I just stated there:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6473607/county-court-claim-parking-no-lighting#latest

    And the screenshots. Two minutes ago I told that poster which one to copy from about that point, and you can do the same - but you need the 10.25% defence point as well.

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