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Royal Mail October 2023 Price Changes

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  • the_lunatic_is_in_my_head
    the_lunatic_is_in_my_head Posts: 9,314 Forumite
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    edited 15 September 2023 at 10:33AM
    soolin said:
    The new surcharges, including a green tax has pushed more people over the edge. 


    I read the thread on eBay and thought that was a joke to begin with.

    They've got the fuel surcharge and are introducing a green surcharge and a peak surcharge. 

    That said I don't think any of those apply to BPL and £1.20 for a 100g LL with BPL isn't that bad. 

    For those using CRL or other such services Royal Mail are doing their best to keep headline prices low and then tap here and there for more money. 

    Small/medium eBay sellers are not going to be happy with it but bigger businesses are likely to simply to pay whatever, the only question is whether they get to a point where Royal Mail is too expensive but Royal Mail is still better than Yodel and Evri which has to be a consideration for these businesses in terms of time and cost dealing with unhappy customers because they used a lesser quality delivery service. 

    Prices on eBay will rise to match the new costs and everyone will be on the same tier of the playing field they was before, the main consideration is how the increases affect volume, whether you sell 1000s of things or 2 things a month, higher prices is likely to cut the number of sales. 

    Selling something like a CD for a fiver isn't really worth it now with £1.85 2nd Class + packing and eBay fees, throw on another 75p (plus FVF fees) in postage and the bit left in your pocket is even smaller to point the time doesn't justify the reward for passing along your unwanted stuff below a certain value. 

    With some things it's a catch 22, you could send a CD in a plastic mailer to get it under 100g but if you are only selling your unwanted stuff and get 2 sales a month and sods law both those complain the case is damaged because it wasn't packaged properly it's going to cost you more dealing with the problems.... 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • soolin
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    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
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  • soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
  • soolin
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    RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you have any without bids you can change the postage now just in case. 

    Royal Mail tend to go offline both on their own site and on eBay somewhere between late afternoon and evening , and when they come back live in the early hours of Monday they will show the new prices 😕
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  • RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you only use LL, it's easier just to top up with the stamps at the local post office.
  • KxMx
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    RyanHello said:
    RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you only use LL, it's easier just to top up with the stamps at the local post office.
    With eBay postage though the labels include delivery confirmation (which tracks most of the time), LL's done at a PO don't. 
  • soolin
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    RyanHello said:
    RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you only use LL, it's easier just to top up with the stamps at the local post office.
    I’m not sure what you mean, what’s to be topped up ? If you buy a label after the price increases it will be the same price for a LL regardless of whether you buy it online via eBay or at a PO and as KxMx says eBay postage has the advantage that most labels give you delivery confirmation. 
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  • soolin said:
    RyanHello said:
    RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you only use LL, it's easier just to top up with the stamps at the local post office.
    I’m not sure what you mean, what’s to be topped up ? If you buy a label after the price increases it will be the same price for a LL regardless of whether you buy it online via eBay or at a PO and as KxMx says eBay postage has the advantage that most labels give you delivery confirmation. 
    If you regularly sell LL items online, it is worth just purchasing the stamps from the PO now, rather than Monday.

    100 LL stamps are £115 now.. Monday they will be £155. Not hard to understand.

    Delivery confirmation is one big con. I've sold thousands of items online, they do not track and RM do not give compensation if the item goes missing.

    All stamps are barcoded now anyway.
  • soolin
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    edited 28 September 2023 at 6:25PM
    RyanHello said:
    soolin said:
    RyanHello said:
    RedImp_2 said:
    soolin said:
    Just bumping to remind people to check their postage before the rises. Basically anything paid for after Sunday will attract the new prices , so make sure you print as many labels as you can before RM go offline at some point on Sunday . 

    I’ve just done a bulk edit on my LLs ready for when I turn my holiday settings off later this week. I did forget to do my auctions and unfortunately have a bid on something so will have to charge the old rate, which will mean sending at a postage loss. 
    Pleased I saw this I hadn’t really clocked the LL increase.  I have a bunch of auctions finishing Sunday, I hope people pay prompt so I can get postage sorted before Monday.
    If you only use LL, it's easier just to top up with the stamps at the local post office.
    I’m not sure what you mean, what’s to be topped up ? If you buy a label after the price increases it will be the same price for a LL regardless of whether you buy it online via eBay or at a PO and as KxMx says eBay postage has the advantage that most labels give you delivery confirmation. 
    If you regularly sell LL items online, it is worth just purchasing the stamps from the PO now, rather than Monday.

    100 LL stamps are £115 now.. Monday they will be £155. Not hard to understand.

    Delivery confirmation is one big con. I've sold thousands of items online, they do not track and RM do not give compensation if the item goes missing.

    All stamps are barcoded now anyway.
    On eBay using their labels around 80% of my large letters show delivery confirmation. On the rare occasions I have had anthem lost I have always been paid out by RM using my POP and interestingly claims seem to be paid in a week or so now. 

    Also of course if you are using a LL stamp, and I agree it is worth buying them now, there is nothing to top up as a stamp is a stamp.
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  • Nebbit
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    I send quite a lot of parcels. I am fortunate to have a post office within walking/cycling distance, and there is a seldom a queue. 
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