Does working effect PIP?

Muttleythefrog

Charles_Foxtrot said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Let's put it another way 

If you found a suitable job below the thresholds that you could do, you would be allowed to do it.  That's permitted work.  All DWP need to know is that you're doing it.

Supported PW would be something perhaps offered via some kind of scheme (? neither you or I know the ins and outs) that would only be available to certain people with very limited ability to work.

The factsheet and PW1 form refer to both types because they have to cover both types, there isn't a separate form for each type of permitted work.

We can put it any way we want but I go by what is on the government’s and DWP’s and job centres instructions and websites, not from people on forums. It’s all there for us to read. 

I’d rather go by the government advice,

Job centres are not experts on benefit rules - perhaps explaining why they have been passing you pillar to post. The government webpage and CAB links you provide are very clear (you even quote CAB detailing about permitted work). You seem to be misunderstanding the form and what you are reading in the links if you are disagreeing with what you are being told here (otherwise I am baffled as to what you are disputing). They are very clear that you can (while on ESA) do permitted work as per the parameters stated or you can do supervised permitted work as per the parameters stated. You can do either and you need to fill in the form as per the instructions for the form - the instructions being pretty clear that you only need have page 5 completed if relevant (hence it being separately addressed) while all other sections must be completed. Supported permitted working possibility for disabled people does not mean permitted work cannot be engaged and as I advised... you are not awarded ESA because you cannot, or are unable to, work... you are awarded ESA (main phase) because you reach a benchmark of disability that the state regards you as of sufficient limitations or risk to not demand you do seek and take work. 

You have provided no information that conflicts with what you have been advised aside from admitting your ESA letter did not say what you had claimed it said. So I am completely baffled as to where clarity is lacking or if people are misunderstanding your posts and there is no conflicting view. For the sake of readers for whom permitted work may be a possibility I do think it important though clarity is delivered to the thread and hence a more direct nature of my post. If there is anything on the links or form you refer to that you think in any way conflicts with the advice others are giving here please quote it and I am sure it will be directly addressed and put into context. I have already specifically dealt with the form issue in previous post while the links you provide both state permitted work possibility. What type of work might be suitable to you specifically is of course beyond the scope of us here - we can only refer to the theoretical options that do exist.

To clarify for purposes of the thread, PIP payments are not affected by working but obviously be careful that any such work does not conflict with the reasons you get PIP as it could be an issue at reviews (silly example... you start working as a tour guide but claim to struggle to interact with other people safely and plan and navigate outdoor trips).

Spoonie_Turtle

Charles_Foxtrot said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Let's put it another way 

If you found a suitable job below the thresholds that you could do, you would be allowed to do it.  That's permitted work.  All DWP need to know is that you're doing it.

Supported PW would be something perhaps offered via some kind of scheme (? neither you or I know the ins and outs) that would only be available to certain people with very limited ability to work.

The factsheet and PW1 form refer to both types because they have to cover both types, there isn't a separate form for each type of permitted work.

We can put it any way we want but I go by what is on the government’s and DWP’s and job centres instructions and websites, not from people on forums. It’s all there for us to read. 

I’d rather go by the government advice,

My only intention was to help you understand what you are reading on the more official sites (although even they can be ambiguous, the law is what matters but in this case the gov.uk site does appear to be correct).  Hopefully Muttley's more comprehensive explanation has cleared up your misinterpretation of what you were reading, but if you wish to get some accredited advice the CAB is the place to turn, not DWP or Jobcentres.