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playabledemo
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My young adult daughter has recently moved from a flat in North London for which she paid council tax, no problems. She moved to a HOM with higher rent, but bills and council tax included so overall cheaper. When she moved out of the flat, she informed Haringey council and told them her new address. They are now automatically billing her for her new address. She's told them that it's included in her rent and they asked her to send a copy of her rental agreement, which she did.
They are now saying that's not good enough and her landlord must contact them to provide proof.
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.
She is confused and upset, as she was just trying to do the right thing by telling the council she was moving. and also now struggling to make these payments.
I've tried to read up on HOMs and it says landlords are usually liable but seems a bit of a grey area? Renting in London seems like a different (brutal!) world to me!
If anyone could offer any advice I would be very grateful, thank you.
My young adult daughter has recently moved from a flat in North London for which she paid council tax, no problems. She moved to a HOM with higher rent, but bills and council tax included so overall cheaper. When she moved out of the flat, she informed Haringey council and told them her new address. They are now automatically billing her for her new address. She's told them that it's included in her rent and they asked her to send a copy of her rental agreement, which she did.
They are now saying that's not good enough and her landlord must contact them to provide proof.
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.
She is confused and upset, as she was just trying to do the right thing by telling the council she was moving. and also now struggling to make these payments.
I've tried to read up on HOMs and it says landlords are usually liable but seems a bit of a grey area? Renting in London seems like a different (brutal!) world to me!
If anyone could offer any advice I would be very grateful, thank you.
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playabledemo said:
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.3 -
What exactly is your daughter renting? If it is a room with ensuite or kitchen facilities, then she probably should have a CT band for the part she occupies and would be responsible for paying the bill.
Also if this is the case it is doubtful if there is planning or building re.gulations consents for an ensuite or kitchen.
But if it just a room with kitchen and bathroom shared with other occupiers of the house it would appear to be a CT HMO and one CT band for which the landlord is responsibleIf you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales1 -
confused by the 3 properties:. Please clarify.playabledemo said:..... recently moved from a flat in North London for which she paid council tax (so property 1), no problems. She moved to a HOM (you mean HMO I assume) with higher rent, but bills and council tax included so overall cheaper.(so property 2) When she moved out of the flat, she informed Haringey council and told them her new address. (so property 3)
They are now automatically billing her for her new address. (do you mean property 3?)She's told them that it's included in her rent and they asked her to send a copy of her rental agreement, which she did.
They are now saying that's not good enough and her landlord must contact them to provide proof.
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.
She is confused and upset, as she was just trying to do the right thing by telling the council she was moving. and also now struggling to make these payments.
I've tried to read up on HOMs and it says landlords are usually liable but seems a bit of a grey area? Renting in London seems like a different (brutal!) world to me!
If anyone could offer any advice I would be very grateful, thank you.
Is property 3 an HMO (or just property 2)?
Or is property 2 in dispute?
f property 2 is the issue, what exactly does the tenancy agreement say? And is it
a) an HMO? (how many people, family groups, floors etc)
b) registered with the council as an HMO?
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propertyrental said:confused by the 3 properties:. Please clarify.playabledemo said:..... recently moved from a flat in North London for which she paid council tax (so property 1), no problems. She moved to a HOM (you mean HMO I assume) with higher rent, but bills and council tax included so overall cheaper.(so property 2) When she moved out of the flat, she informed Haringey council and told them her new address. (so property 3)
They are now automatically billing her for her new address. (do you mean property 3?)She's told them that it's included in her rent and they asked her to send a copy of her rental agreement, which she did.
They are now saying that's not good enough and her landlord must contact them to provide proof.
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.
She is confused and upset, as she was just trying to do the right thing by telling the council she was moving. and also now struggling to make these payments.
I've tried to read up on HOMs and it says landlords are usually liable but seems a bit of a grey area? Renting in London seems like a different (brutal!) world to me!
If anyone could offer any advice I would be very grateful, thank you.
Is property 3 an HMO (or just property 2)?
Or is property 2 in dispute?
f property 2 is the issue, what exactly does the tenancy agreement say? And is it
a) an HMO? (how many people, family groups, floors etc)
b) registered with the council as an HMO?If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales4 -
lincroft1710 said:propertyrental said:confused by the 3 properties:. Please clarify.playabledemo said:..... recently moved from a flat in North London for which she paid council tax (so property 1), no problems. She moved to a HOM (you mean HMO I assume) with higher rent, but bills and council tax included so overall cheaper.(so property 2) When she moved out of the flat, she informed Haringey council and told them her new address. (so property 3)
They are now automatically billing her for her new address. (do you mean property 3?)She's told them that it's included in her rent and they asked her to send a copy of her rental agreement, which she did.
They are now saying that's not good enough and her landlord must contact them to provide proof.
Her landlord is not happy with her that she's "broken her contract" by paying council tax herself.
She is confused and upset, as she was just trying to do the right thing by telling the council she was moving. and also now struggling to make these payments.
I've tried to read up on HOMs and it says landlords are usually liable but seems a bit of a grey area? Renting in London seems like a different (brutal!) world to me!
If anyone could offer any advice I would be very grateful, thank you.
Is property 3 an HMO (or just property 2)?
Or is property 2 in dispute?
f property 2 is the issue, what exactly does the tenancy agreement say? And is it
a) an HMO? (how many people, family groups, floors etc)
b) registered with the council as an HMO?1 -
Is it licenced as an HMO?I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.0
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lincroft1710 said:What exactly is your daughter renting? If it is a room with ensuite or kitchen facilities, then she probably should have a CT band for the part she occupies and would be responsible for paying the bill.
Also if this is the case it is doubtful if there is planning or building re.gulations consents for an ensuite or kitchen.
But if it just a room with kitchen and bathroom shared with other occupiers of the house it would appear to be a CT HMO and one CT band for which the landlord is responsible
Thank you all for the replies.0 -
kingstreet said:Is it licenced as an HMO?
I've just looked up the council tax, its band D. The amount they are taking from her monthly is the amount for the whole property.0 -
aha I've just found out there is. The property has been registered as a HMO since last month. Interesting! (She's been there 3 months).
I've told her the Licence reference number to give to the council - hopefully that might help...0 -
playabledemo said:kingstreet said:Is it licenced as an HMO?https://www.haringey.gov.uk/housing/landlords/multiple-occupants/hmo-licensing-register
Looking at this page:
https://new.haringey.gov.uk/council-tax/tell-us-about-a-council-tax-change/tell-us-youre-moving-home
Did she follow the moving within Haringey page to move her account from one address to another? I would probably have used the moving out of Haringey page and let them contact her to query it later.0
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