Pip/Assessment

pope

I don't know if I have mentioned it or not.

Decision letter mentions there is no evidence of a cognitive or intellectual restriction.

But assessors report mentions . The claimant has a mental intellectual or cognitive impairment and may need additional support to comply with future claim processes YES


Also The functional restriction affecting the MOBILITY activities identified in this report is likely to remain for ATLEAST 9 months

Muttleythefrog

pope said:

I don't know if I have mentioned it or not.

Decision letter mentions there is no evidence of a cognitive or intellectual restriction.

But assessors report mentions . The claimant has a mental intellectual or cognitive impairment and may need additional support to comply with future claim processes YES


Also The functional restriction affecting the MOBILITY activities identified in this report is likely to remain for ATLEAST 9 months

The decision and assessor are not really in conflict if that's your concern... as note (I've bolded) the crucial difference and indeed from my understanding you do have significant mental health problems and they could indeed determine (as they do for me) as a result you may require support with future claims processes. I sense from my reading that this isn't surprising and hence I also suggest you might get 3rd party help (CAB etc) to make MR request/appeal as it could require a chat with you and good look at the evidence/facts alongside a good understanding of the criteria and how to argue case for descriptors applying that were not considered to in the decision.

On your last point... yes and this is somewhat confusing to me as an outsider as indeed noted by at least one other poster it is hard to understand what precisely underlies the decision to award the points in Mob2 activity when there seems otherwise belief the leg issue would not be present for this duration. So naturally another poster asks, and I wonder, what precisely is the physical problem they think has long term impact on mobilisation. It is confusing and to be brutally honest difficult to entirely understand from our ignorant position without full facts and evidence and that even assumes the report and decision actually make sense in the first place and often they do not and sometimes they make errors (for example in one case an HCP allocated a zero scoring descriptor and the justification for choosing it was effectively a statement of a high scoring descriptor - so naturally both things could not be the opinion of the HCP and so there was at least one critical error. The decision maker rubber stamped the glaring anomaly). 

pope

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

Alice_Holt

pope said:

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

     Yes, you have an absolute 13 month deadline.
     You will need to give your good reason for lateness on the form. Getting evidence is a good reason.

IainHL

pope said:

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

I stand by my previous comment. Submit your MR now, giving your reasons. Also state that you have a follow-up appointment with your consultant on 16th October, from which you expect to get a further letter to add to your evidence which you will forward to them as soon as you have it.

Alice_Holt

IainHL said:

pope said:

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

 Submit your MR now, giving your reasons. Also state that you have a follow-up appointment with your consultant on 16th October, from which you expect to get a further letter to add to your evidence which you will forward to them as soon as you have it.

      The disadvantage of that is that should the letter not be entirely supportive, you have already committed to include it as evidence.

      I'd rather have sight of such evidence before determining if it's suitable evidence for your appeal.

 
 By the way, in my many years at Citizens Advice I've never seen the DWP refuse a late MR. 
 And if they do, that decision can be appealed to the Tribunal Service.

pope

Alice_Holt said:

IainHL said:

pope said:

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

 Submit your MR now, giving your reasons. Also state that you have a follow-up appointment with your consultant on 16th October, from which you expect to get a further letter to add to your evidence which you will forward to them as soon as you have it.

      The disadvantage of that is that should the letter not be entirely supportive, you have already committed to include it as evidence.

      I'd rather have sight of such evidence before determining if it's suitable evidence for your appeal.

 
 By the way, in my many years at Citizens Advice I've never seen the DWP refuse a late MR. 
 And if they do, that decision can be appealed to the Tribunal Service.

Would DWP accept waiting for letter from consultant as evidence be a good reason for sending in MR late? As this would be my reason for sending MR late.

Alice_Holt

pope said:

Alice_Holt said:

IainHL said:

pope said:

My 1 month expires on 15th October to get my MR in but I am waiting for a evidence letter from a consultant but will not be able to get my hands onto this letter untill a few more weeks. Is there any way I can send in MR later and give a reason for sending back MR late?

 Submit your MR now, giving your reasons. Also state that you have a follow-up appointment with your consultant on 16th October, from which you expect to get a further letter to add to your evidence which you will forward to them as soon as you have it.

      The disadvantage of that is that should the letter not be entirely supportive, you have already committed to include it as evidence.

      I'd rather have sight of such evidence before determining if it's suitable evidence for your appeal.

 
 By the way, in my many years at Citizens Advice I've never seen the DWP refuse a late MR. 
 And if they do, that decision can be appealed to the Tribunal Service.

Would DWP accept waiting for letter from consultant as evidence be a good reason for sending in MR late? As this would be my reason for sending MR late.

       Yes, particularly if only a couple of weeks late.

pope

I have been really unwell because of my mental health for the last few weeks so have not been able to do the MR yet. I have been to my orthopedic appointment and been told that my fracture still has a gap but he says clinically it has healed he says that the gap should heal in another 8 months. I still have pain and swelling.

Also I have been having back pain for a very long time and since my car accident in most parts of my body. I was seen by a Rheumatologist and have been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and early osteophytes in my spine. 

I was going to write in my MR that my fracture has not healed but now things have changed as. Could I still say in my MR that my fracture has healed but there is still a gap in the fracture? Although my clinical letter only mentions that the fracture has healed so have no evidence. Should I go back to my orthopedic and ask for a revised letter mentioning fracture has clinically healed but there is still a gap in the fracture which should heal in 8 months estimate. Will DWP make fuss about this Or? Or should I not mention it at all in the MR I'm lost don't know what to do?


I have evidence for Fibromyalgia and osteophytes this affects my mobility but I did not mention this in my PIP for when I applied because I did not know what was happening to me but now its all comming together. Should I just send this as evidence for my mobility?

Thank you.
 

Spoonie_Turtle

pope said:

I have evidence for Fibromyalgia and osteophytes this affects my mobility but I did not mention this in my PIP for when I applied because I did not know what was happening to me but now its all comming together. Should I just send this as evidence for my mobility?

Did you mention the symptoms even though you didn't have a diagnosis?  Or did it become debilitating after starting your PIP claim?