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An in-between phase

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  • Cheers @Blackcats I always think I'm being succinct then realise I have probably used more internet than bitc*in mining saying I used up some tomatoes for lunch or somesuch 😁 Very nice to see you on my humble abode of a diary  
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • Allo @WinterWarrior thank you very much for the suggestion, much appreciated- unfortunately the affordable housing in London is not really geared to people who are actually poor, just those poorer than international investors who buy up most of the new housing and leave communities derelict from what I see! I have also experienced with my former partner how awful part-buy schemes are and would be extremely hesitant about ever getting involved even if I could afford it. But I do really appreciate your suggestion! 😂
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • This is probably a good point at which to outline why it's even more such an in-between phase.
    Mr PIP earns enough that we could get a mortgage on a small place in an area we don't know or a VERY small place near my mum that in reality wouldn't be suitable for two adults both largely working from home.
    It would also require ALL our savings.
    My Dad died a while ago and as my mum is my only remaining immediate family member it seems stupid to tie up our money living somewhere not near her if we didn't even want to live there.
    But there's a twist! Mr PIP's Dad has some land from his builders yard back in the day that he has said Mr PIP and his brother can build a house each on. Very exciting and fortunate. Except! They've been in the planning permission stage for almost four years due to a variety of factors but the main one being that the local council is a steaming pile of ineptitude. (I appreciate councils have had cuts etc but I'm not in any mood to be generous when they've wasted four years of Mr PIP's earnings on rent that could have been spent on him/us having a home of our own.)
    So. Do we wait and pray that this project starting is just around the corner, and continue with not having a home of our own together and not paying into our own asset and the constant horrible feeling of not having any control over our future.
    Or do we get somewhere near my mum that isn't suitable but make the best of it and pray we can sell it without loss if we're ever able to move forward with the building project- we'd have to sell to get our savings back to be able to afford to build, and we'd still need a building mortgage (and we're both middle aged so this isn't a cute starter make-do and progress situation).
    Seems stupid to mug ourselves when the property if built would be worth more than we'd ever be able to afford to buy normally at any point now or in the future. But so much money and time has already been wasted, we don't know when is appropriate to cut our losses and get on with our lives. IF we were able to sell the land, it still wouldn't be enough combined with mortgage we'd be able to get, to get a decent place anywhere near my mum (North London prices!). Fortunately she's in decent health (* touches wood *) but as a woman in her mid 70s living alone on the top floor of a block of rented  flats, it's incredibly important to me that we're within reasonably easy reach (the build is not in same area but only about half hour away on public transport and even quicker driving if there was an emergency).
    I think the only sensible option is to not tie up literally all our money on something we may not be able to get out of while this build opportunity still exists, and to sit tight and keep saving any odds and ends. But it is driving us (especially me 😂) absolutely spare!
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • peb
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    Ah.yup. frustrating. If you are tied to an expensive area its a nightmare 
  • It is rather @peb Also it's the area I grew up in and where feels like home and my community- I know what one wants is irrelevant in the harsh reality of life but I find it so cruel that a person can't live among the people and places they love, sharing helping each other out and caring about the community and the area, just because their parents believed in the concept of social housing half a century ago.
    On the plus side, my stony face when all my friends complain about money knowing they're going to inherit million pound properties that were bought for ten grand, I'm sure does better work than botox 😁
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • Today's doings:
    Got some steps by going to money saving Al*I, shame they don't have a loyalty doodah but you can't have everything. Can't carry much when I go to the shops but at least it forces me to get steps in if I have to do my small shop in a few goes!

    Did a few surveys

    Put a top on Vinted

    Not mse but went to my local to have a few beers with the locals gang- though I do consider investing in seeing mates, especially in your community, to actually be quite mse because you get different ideas and advice and if you needed it, a roof over your head for a few days. And you don't go completely mad from lack of a normal range of human interactions.

    Got the refund from street fair woman. The more I think about it, the more I can see potential ways that she could be skimming hundreds of pounds to herself every year. But I shall try to adopt an uncynical attitude. Though I really think I'm right. But that's because I'm a cynical b*tch 😁

    Anyway, hope you've all had a good start to the week and if not, Mondays don't count, you'll just be excellent tomorrow x
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • A no spend day today, which my bank took so seriously they refused to let me refund my friend for the street fair stall 😁 Will try again tomorrow. It was the bank having difficulties btw, not my account, in case anyone was concerned!

    Among the usual work and life admin;

    Entered some competitions

    Did some surveys

    A book that's meant to be a classic that I found absolutely unreadable was declined by Z*ffit which was a bit annoying as I particularly wanted it rid, but I did get some satisfaction from imagining that Z*ffit was agreeing with me that it's classic status was sorely misplaced

    About to finish another book that every decade or so I think 'I'll get rid of this, I'll just read it one more time' then keep- I really thought this would be the time but I'm keeping it, it's not a particular favourite but I'm now quite interested in my changing perspective of it and how I'll view it in another 10-20 years. When I first read it as a teenager the main character, a 40 year old woman walking out on her teenage children seemed so adult. Now I'm shocked that a 40 year old has teenage children! Will hopefully survive long enough to read it again at 60 and have an entirely different take on it. Will start a new book I'm not sure about and if I don't want to keep it I'll see if Z*ffit will give me a few pence for it

    Had a walk getting some free rolls from Olio

    Got an app offer of a free small bottle of L*cozade from Gr*ggs- and didn't take my wallet so I couldn't be tempted to buy delicious baked goods

    Got arrested for stealing a cheese slice and a square of sponge cake
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6466032/an-in-between-phase/p1

    'self-blame can be as egotistical as self-praise... any work worth doing is greater than we are... we must not overrate our importance to it, either for good or ill' Margaret Kennedy Lucy Carmichael
  • EssexHebridean
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    You're far from the only not-in-debt DFW dweller - I've been kicking about here for years on various pretexts...nobody has done the pointy finger thing and told me to leave as yet although I think I might shortly end up evicting myself and heading to MFW...hmmm...

    You are also far from the only one who goes on to their diary to write "a quick update" and leaves a rather lengthy ramble in their wake...there are definitely a few of us that particular label could be applied to! :lol: 

    My book related pet-hate are books that people tell me I "should" read - it's an instant literary turn-off so far as I am concerned. (And a lot of the so-called classics fall into this heading from being told as a child that I should, or must read them. No, you're alright thanks!)

    As for the PIP - definitely use it where needed to help you with maintaining normality so far as is possible where otherwise your condition would prevent that. Cabs seem like a perfect use when they are required! 
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