Eon Next Economy 7 metering issue

dealyboy

Gerry1 said:

dealyboy said:

@Gerry1 added comment as per your advice. Is that OK?

@dealyboy

TL;DR  Always check that you've strapped on your parachute, not someone's packed lunch !

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The note about the BusinessJuice info is fine as far as it goes, but the basic problem remains that of relying on what someone or something thinks your meter is supposed to be doing, rather than you actively checking what your meter is actually doing.

If there's a variance for whatever reason then it can turn out to be an expensive mistake.  Worst of all, it would be difficult or impossible to get a refund for unintended peak rate usage unless you had watertight evidence that proved you had been been given wrong advice by your supplier.

Anyone waiting for the witching hour before turning on high power appliances or relying on local timers should take great care to confirm the cheap rate times by checking the meter on the wall.

Best of all, a neon indicator on a switched circuit outlet makes it easy to see at a glance when the cheap rate has kicked in.  It also makes it easy to spot any changes, e.g. GMT/BST, drifting clocks or unexpected glitches.

Good advice @Gerry1. 

I don't have an off-peak circuit but I did check my SMEGS 2 smart meter when BST started, that R1 was active until 01:00 BST and R2 was still active until 08:00 BST. My Eastern off-peak time is 00:00 - 07:00 GMT.

Meters can operate either GMT or 'clock time', the meter time switch code (MTSC/MTC) giving the off-peak timeframe as follows ...


... again referring to the E.ON Next Community thread 'What are my Economy 7 Times?'

https://community.eonnext.com/threads/4195-What-are-my-Economy-7-Times

It would be interesting to know what your MTSC is Gerry.

dealyboy

@gambleruk said:

I am with Eon Next as well and had the same conversation with them, I tried to tell them my cheap rate was 22:30 - 00:30 and then 2:30 til 7:30 but they would not believe me and said there must be a fault, I just left it at that as long as I know when I have the cheap electric then all is fine, just bear in mind when the clocks go back in October my cheap rate is the 21:30 - 23:30 and 1:30 - 6:30 so just make sure you check once the clocks have changed.

Hi Gambler ... out of interest what is your region and MTSC?

QrizB

FYI my MTSC is 900 (Octopus Go, 4 hrs cheap 0030-0430).

Gerry1

My MTSC is 16.  Yup, just two digits.

QrizB

Gerry1 said:

My MTSC is 16.  Yup, just two digits.

You can join me in the special corner!

dealyboy

Did I say mine is 807 ... boring.

Gerry1

dealyboy said:

Did I say mine is 807 ... boring.

Probably because your RTS uses valves?

I'll get my cap.  (It's the one with the big D on it.)

gambleruk

dealyboy said:

@gambleruk said:

I am with Eon Next as well and had the same conversation with them, I tried to tell them my cheap rate was 22:30 - 00:30 and then 2:30 til 7:30 but they would not believe me and said there must be a fault, I just left it at that as long as I know when I have the cheap electric then all is fine, just bear in mind when the clocks go back in October my cheap rate is the 21:30 - 23:30 and 1:30 - 6:30 so just make sure you check once the clocks have changed.

Hi Gambler ... out of interest what is your region and MTSC?

North West and my MTSC IS 811, can I just ask what is the significance of the MTSC ?

molerat

gambleruk said:

dealyboy said:

@gambleruk said:

I am with Eon Next as well and had the same conversation with them, I tried to tell them my cheap rate was 22:30 - 00:30 and then 2:30 til 7:30 but they would not believe me and said there must be a fault, I just left it at that as long as I know when I have the cheap electric then all is fine, just bear in mind when the clocks go back in October my cheap rate is the 21:30 - 23:30 and 1:30 - 6:30 so just make sure you check once the clocks have changed.

Hi Gambler ... out of interest what is your region and MTSC?

North West and my MTSC IS 811, can I just ask what is the significance of the MTSC ?

If you look above at the post by dealyboy it shows the off peak hours as per the MTSC.

dealyboy

@gambleruk said:

dealyboy said:

@gambleruk said:

I am with Eon Next as well and had the same conversation with them, I tried to tell them my cheap rate was 22:30 - 00:30 and then 2:30 til 7:30 but they would not believe me and said there must be a fault, I just left it at that as long as I know when I have the cheap electric then all is fine, just bear in mind when the clocks go back in October my cheap rate is the 21:30 - 23:30 and 1:30 - 6:30 so just make sure you check once the clocks have changed.

Hi Gambler ... out of interest what is your region and MTSC?

North West and my MTSC IS 811, can I just ask what is the significance of the MTSC ?

Well it suggests your supplier believes your meter is set for off-peak 00:30 - 07:30 GMT if you obtained that from a bill. That would be the standard setting for North West. 

The special split times appear to have non-standard codes.

There must be some history behind the times you're stating, which also seem to be at odds with other 2:5 times mentioned which I believe are GMT.

I am a first-former (old term) compared to some of these guys and hopefully they will chip in ...
@CSI_Yorkshire @Gerry1 @QrizB