Ukpc ccbc question

Thebeach

Hello everyone,

I’m currently drafting a defence (for my partner) to ccbc regarding an unpaid parking charge from 4 years ago. I was the driver and my partner the RK. The initial PC was £100 with a 40% discount blah blah

No driver details have been disclosed which means UKPC will be using POFA 12 in their claim to PC (I think)

I sent an SAR and have received the letters and photographs, and the supposed NTK letter is titled Re: parking charge. It was sent 7 days after the alleged breach, inviting the keeper to pay up! But it doesn’t mention anything anything about ‘maximum additional costs they may seek to recover’ (the ccbc is now £221) then obvs court costs, making it a whopping £306.57. does anyone think that this could be ‘non pofa compliant’ neither of the letters from the SAR mention a max fixed amount they may intend to seek. Sorry for the drawl, it’s all new to me!

Umkomaas

But it doesn’t mention anything anything about ‘maximum additional costs they may seek to recover’ (the ccbc is now £221) then obvs court costs, making it a whopping £306.57. does anyone think that this could be ‘non pofa compliant’ 

I wouldn't over concern yourself with technicalities. Play the game and eventually find your thread starring in the following:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6377263/dcb-legal-record-of-private-parking-court-claim-discontinuations/p1

I’m currently drafting a defence (for my partner)

Please confirm that the Defence is written in your wife's name?

Are you using the template defence from the (cunningly named) Template Defence Announcement sticky?

So that regular contributor @KeithP can provide you with a timeline that you will need to work to, please provide us with the 'Date of Issue' on the court claim form and confirm whether you have acknowledged service, and if so, on what date please. 

Coupon-mad

The Template Defence already covers every abusive aspect of the fake added 'debt fee'.

Thebeach

Thank you! 

Yes I have the defence template & yes I am basically doing the donkey work for him (the defendant/RK) as he would probably have just paid to avoid the hassle! I will not & we can’t afford it either.
I filed the AOS on MCOL after 4pm 27th July - the ccbc was dated 21st July. 

KeithP

Thebeach said:

I filed the AOS on MCOL after 4pm 27th July - the ccbc was dated 21st July. 

With a Claim Issue Date of 27th July 21st July, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 29th August 2023 Wednesday 23rd August 2023 to file your Defence.

That's over less than three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

Thebeach

Thanks so much!
The template is so eloquently done, I’m worried I’ll make a mess of the paragraphs I have to edit.

Thebeach

KeithP said:

Thebeach said:

I filed the AOS on MCOL after 4pm 27th July - the ccbc was dated 21st July. 

With a Claim Issue Date of 27th July, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 29th August 2023 to file your Defence.

That's over three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

Thanks KeithP

The claim issue date was 21st July - I filed the AOS on 27th but it was after 4pm. Does that make it filed on the 28th?

KeithP

Thebeach said:

KeithP said:

Thebeach said:

I filed the AOS on MCOL after 4pm 27th July - the ccbc was dated 21st July. 

With a Claim Issue Date of 27th July, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 29th August 2023 to file your Defence.

That's over three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.

Thanks KeithP

The claim issue date was 21st July - I filed the AOS on 27th but it was after 4pm. Does that make it filed on the 28th?

Ahh... sorry.

I have corrected my earlier post so that it now reads...

With a Claim Issue Date of 21st July, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 23rd August 2023 to file your Defence.

That's less than three weeks away, but still plenty of time to produce a winning Defence.

YankeeBrit

Thebeach said:

The claim issue date was 21st July - I filed the AOS on 27th but it was after 4pm. Does that make it filed on the 28th?

it doesn't matter for now. As long as you did your AoS at least 5 days after and within 14 days of the "issue date", it will have been done in a timely manner. It is only when some people rush to complete their AoS less than 5 days from the "date of issue" that they actually reduce slightly the time they have to file their defence.

Coupon-mad

Don't worry about eloquence. Why not browse a dozen other defences here over the weekend? We have several every day!

Gain confidence & inspiration from how others like you last week / last month worded their facts paragraph(s) which can of course be more than one if you need more.

Thebeach

Thanks everyone!
 I’ll be back with many more questions no doubt.