Need help finding a new oven

TimSynths

FFHillbilly said:

I very much doubt you'll find a new oven that will fit. for over 10 years now they have all been made as big as possible to fit in the gap, they all have more insulation inside than they used to
seems moving the gas pipe is the only option

Yes I agree, I will get the pipe moved or buy an airfryer!

TimSynths

FreeBear said:

TimSynths said:  the plumber is getting to me in a few days time so I could ask him to look at moving the pipe

Unless the plumber is Gas Safe registered, he will not be able to (legally) touch the gas pipe. If he can, it may be possible to remove the two brass fittings on the back of the hob and replace them with just one elbow. This would place the gas pipe closer to the underside of the worktop.

Many ovens sit on a plinth inside the housing, so another option would be to reduce the height of the plinth, and fit a filler strip above the new oven. Also worth looking at the technical drawings of any oven you are considering purchasing. I found this one - https://www.hotpoint.co.uk/hotpoint-class-2-sa2-544-c-ix-builtin-oven-stainless-steel-f100152/p - It has a step at the back that might clear your gas pipe without any modifications.

He is Gas Safe- Had him out in April to do a boiler repair and he was recommended too me from a friend.

It does look like that it is sitting on a plinth also- so good call, I'll keep that in mind. Ive had a look at a lot of ovens now and even the model I had ordered "seemed" to have enough space at the back so too much of a gamble now for my skills. I did have a look to see if I could get the same model on ebay for a like for like swap last night but big fat no go on that front.

ThisIsWeird

Phew - a chemical flush - something had to add to that cost! I hope it's a thorough job, and it would make sense to have a magnetic filter fitted to the 'return' to your boiler to keep on catching any remaining sludge - ~£150.

If the stopcock is otherwise benign, another - IF it's easier - solution is to just add a second one further along in a more accessible place, and leave the old sticky one in place. Anyhoo.

FreeBear's idea is a good alternative, but it's your choice. That floor panel in the oven should lift out (couple of screws?) to reveal the supports under it. These supports could be cut down to lower that floor to allow most ovens to fit. The decorative fascia panel under the oven could then be sliced in 'half' (or whatever proportions suit) with one placed under the oven, and one above to fit the new gap. Obviously not the ideal solution, but a perfectly decent 'alternative'.

ThisIsWeird

You'd need to confirm using the manufacturer's dimensions and installation instructions, but possibilities? All based on 'appearance'.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132686599870

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166025356856

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126032567837

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186002071252

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285410888777

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115346029788

They all have various degrees of 'cutouts', but most likely not large enough.

TimSynths

ThisIsWeird said:

Phew - a chemical flush - something had to add to that cost! I hope it's a thorough job, and it would make sense to have a magnetic filter fitted to the 'return' to your boiler to keep on catching any remaining sludge - ~£150.

If the stopcock is otherwise benign, another - IF it's easier - solution is to just add a second one further along in a more accessible place, and leave the old sticky one in place. Anyhoo.

FreeBear's idea is a good alternative, but it's your choice. That floor panel in the oven should lift out (couple of screws?) to reveal the supports under it. These supports could be cut down to lower that floor to allow most ovens to fit. The decorative fascia panel under the oven could then be sliced in 'half' (or whatever proportions suit) with one placed under the oven, and one above to fit the new gap. Obviously not the ideal solution, but a perfectly decent 'alternative'.

I have a Sparky mate and he is popping round as has said "Ooh I’ll take a look at gas fitting first as they will try anything not to have to fit them as lazy." So will have a look at the plinth too. Looks like I might have some options.

TimSynths

ThisIsWeird said:

You'd need to confirm using the manufacturer's dimensions and installation instructions, but possibilities? All based on 'appearance'.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132686599870

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166025356856

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126032567837

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186002071252

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285410888777

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115346029788

They all have various degrees of 'cutouts', but most likely not large enough.

This is brilliant- thank you!

Chickereeeee

Their are slim depth ones - 53cm, which should give you an additional 3cm+  space to play with, if that would be enough?
E.g. https://www.montpellier-appliances.com/product-details/montpellier-sbfo59x-slim-depth-single-fan-oven/

FreeBear

TimSynths said: I have a Sparky mate and he is popping round as has said "Ooh I’ll take a look at gas fitting first as they will try anything not to have to fit them as lazy."

Sparks and gas do not mix - Well, they do. Just the once. and with a bang.

Unless your Sparky mate is Gas Safe registered, all he can do is look and advise (as can the rest of us). He can NOT modify the gas pipe & fittings. If he gets it wrong and there is a gas leak that blows up in your face, your household insurance wouldn't cover any damage. In addition, your Sparky "mate" could very well be prosecuted (possible fine and/or jail time).

Should your Gas Safe registered plumber become aware of any tampering, he could report it and get your gas supply cut off (on top of triggering an investigation that could lead to a prosecution).

TimSynths

Chickereeeee said:

Their are slim depth ones - 53cm, which should give you an additional 3cm+  space to play with, if that would be enough?
E.g. https://www.montpellier-appliances.com/product-details/montpellier-sbfo59x-slim-depth-single-fan-oven/

Amazing! Thank you!!!!

TimSynths

FreeBear said:

TimSynths said: I have a Sparky mate and he is popping round as has said "Ooh I’ll take a look at gas fitting first as they will try anything not to have to fit them as lazy."

Sparks and gas do not mix - Well, they do. Just the once. and with a bang.

Unless your Sparky mate is Gas Safe registered, all he can do is look and advise (as can the rest of us). He can NOT modify the gas pipe & fittings. If he gets it wrong and there is a gas leak that blows up in your face, your household insurance wouldn't cover any damage. In addition, your Sparky "mate" could very well be prosecuted (possible fine and/or jail time).

Should your Gas Safe registered plumber become aware of any tampering, he could report it and get your gas supply cut off (on top of triggering an investigation that could lead to a prosecution).

Its more he thinks he can still fit an oven with the pipe in situ as it is by changing the plinth etc, thinks the fitter was just being lazy, he isn't touching the pipe.