How many hours can a 16 year old in FT education work during summer hols

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  • hjade
    hjade Posts: 7 Forumite
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    Would it be min wages  or they planning to pay him more?
    It seems they are intending to offer him more around £50/£60 a day 
  • hjade
    hjade Posts: 7 Forumite
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    Are you claiming CTC for any other children? Or do you claim WTC as well? If you don't and your tax credits end, you will not be able to reclaim it. It would need to be UC that you claim.
    Yes i have other children i claim for 
  • hjade
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    comeandgo said:
    GrumpyDil said:
    Is it only me that would not be comfortable that this is described as self employed labourer? 
    No, I’ve been thinking of insurance he would need , tax implications, all too complicated I’d think.  I hope it’s not construction related as that would be CIS tax.
    It’s light labouring work for a plastering and building company working in residential properties not on site.
    Mainly doing painting.
  • kaMelo
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    Self employment is a matter of fact rather than choice.
     If someone tells them what hours to work, where they are working, what work to do and when to do it they most definitely are not self employed.
    Rates for a contractor would be considerably higher too.
  • p00hsticks
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    kaMelo said:
    Self employment is a matter of fact rather than choice.
     If someone tells them what hours to work, where they are working, what work to do and when to do it they most definitely are not self employed.
    Rates for a contractor would be considerably higher too.
    It sounds like it's the sort of work that falls under CIS
    Construction Industry Scheme (CIS) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
  • sheramber
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    Working 35 hours is employment rules, nothing to do with tax credits or child benefit. Tax credits and child benefit rules are 24 hours. Two different systems with different rules.
  • hjade
    hjade Posts: 7 Forumite
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    It turns out my sons communication had lacked clarity and in actual fact it is an apprenticeship he has been offered at minimum wage , he would work 4 days a week and go to college for 1 day a week so he would no longer be eligible for tax credits or child benefit i believe .

    He needs to go into college to decide whether he’s better off remaining on the full time course he was intending to do or whether to do an apprenticeship.

    Thank you all for you’re replies.
  • poppy12345
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    hjade said:
    It turns out my sons communication had lacked clarity and in actual fact it is an apprenticeship he has been offered at minimum wage , he would work 4 days a week and go to college for 1 day a week so he would no longer be eligible for tax credits or child benefit i believe .

    He needs to go into college to decide whether he’s better off remaining on the full time course he was intending to do or whether to do an apprenticeship.

    Thank you all for you’re replies.

    If he'll be getting paid for that apprenticeship then your benefits for him will end.
  • tomtom256
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    edited 28 June 2023 at 7:05PM
    The 24 hour rule only applies if he has left approved education or training and starts working.

    "leaves approved education or training and starts working in a job where they’re paid 24 or more hours a week"

    If he starts an apprenticeship, then he would have left education, so any benefits you receive for him would stop anway.

    If he is just working until he restarts college after the summer holidays, then it is the generic under 18 rules around working would need to be followed.

  • peteuk
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    FYI minimal wage for an apprentice is £4.81 and hour.
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