How many hours can a 16 year old in FT education work during summer hols

hjade

Hi
My 16 year old has just sat his GCSES and is going to college in September he has been offered full time work during the summer holidays with this work potentially continuing part time in september doing labouring work self employed - does this affect tax credits if he is still in FT education i know if he has left education once he works more than 24 hours his CTC and CB would stop but is this still the case if he is still in full time education ? 

peteuk

Taken from Gov.uk 

During school holidays 15 to 16-year-olds can only work a maximum of 35 hours a week. This includes:

• a maximum of 8 hours on weekdays and Saturdays
• a maximum of 2 hours on Sunday.

peteuk

As for FT education, once he leaves it will affect CB and CTC.

https://www.gov.uk/child-tax-credit-when-child-reaches-16

Take a look but it starts with ‘ Child Tax Credit usually stops on 31 August after your child turns 16” so come September when he returns to FT education you will need to tell them, and it will restart.

HillStreetBlues

peteuk said:

Taken from Gov.uk 

During school holidays 15 to 16-year-olds can only work a maximum of 35 hours a week. This includes:

• a maximum of 8 hours on weekdays and Saturdays
• a maximum of 2 hours on Sunday.

The OP son is 16, so would be out of that range as he is 16 plus.

So would be looking as under 18
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/children/check-your-rights-at-work-if-youre-under-18/

poppy12345

peteuk said:

Taken from Gov.uk 

During school holidays 15 to 16-year-olds can only work a maximum of 35 hours a week. This includes:

• a maximum of 8 hours on weekdays and Saturdays
• a maximum of 2 hours on Sunday.

I don't think that's correct. They will need to make sure they work less than 24 hours/week. Anymore than this and the tax credits will stop. https://www.gov.uk/child-tax-credit-when-child-reaches-16

hjade

This is what is confusing me . It seems to be eligible he needs to work under 24 hours so 23 however the work would be temporary and it seems silly losing his claim for 6 weeks to then need to reapply in September i did ask him could he not just say he can only work 23 hours but he got upset as googled and saw the same info that he is allowed to work 35 , he is wanting a save up to get a bike and do his license and worries he won’t get the work if he doesn’t agree to full time.
It just seems a lot of effort after informing them he is staying on at college to then potentially need to tell them he is working full time to then have to tell them again he is back in full time education again when he would then most likely work full time again in all holidays if the work is offered again so would have a constant stop and start going on to the point i would be tempted to not claim it at all but then when he is not working during term time he would be dependent on me financially and i wouldn’t have it to give him.
His Tax credits are worth around £600 a month as he gets DLA so it’s a lot to be with out suddenly for the sake of him working over the summer but i also agree if he’s earning a full time wage he doesn’t need tax credits as can financially support himself over the summer if that is his choice and also feel the work experience would be good for him and keeps him out of trouble in the summer . He is also diagnosed with asd and hyper mobility and whilst it’s admirable that he wants to work and i’m very proud of him for working , full time may eventually take its toll on him and then we’ve made all these changes and lost money for something that’s already temporary and he may not even continue with . I don’t want to discourage him either as i think it’s so good that he wants to give it a go it’s a shame they can’t just pause payment if the hours are over the threshold but its only temporary 

GrumpyDil

Is it only me that would not be comfortable that this is described as self employed labourer? 

HillStreetBlues

Would it be min wages  or they planning to pay him more?

comeandgo

GrumpyDil said:

Is it only me that would not be comfortable that this is described as self employed labourer? 

No, I’ve been thinking of insurance he would need , tax implications, all too complicated I’d think.  I hope it’s not construction related as that would be CIS tax.

poppy12345

Are you claiming CTC for any other children? Or do you claim WTC as well? If you don't and your tax credits end, you will not be able to reclaim it. It would need to be UC that you claim.

hjade

GrumpyDil said:

Is it only me that would not be comfortable that this is described as self employed labourer? 

I was not comfortable with this either and tried to explain to him i’m not even sure he can register as self employed at 16