After Being Served A Section 21

byronwells

Alright guys

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July.. Everything is correct.. The only issue that we are having is trying to get another property to rent..  It's a nightmare and really stressing us out.  We are thinking that the Landlord want's new tenants to get a higher rent than they did from us.. Please not we have going trough a letting agency. My query is if we have got the landlords details can we or should we contact the landlord and suggest that we can pay a little bit more rent than we were doing so before.. Or just leave it?? 

It's a nightmare at the moment trying to find another property to rent and are running out of time before we are homeless

CSI_Yorkshire

byronwells said:

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July..

I bet that's not what it says.

byronwells

CSI_Yorkshire said:

byronwells said:

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July..

I bet that's not what it says.

Sorry but don't waste peoples time by posting just to get your posts up when you have not even bothered reading and answering the actual question....

pinkshoes

Did the landlord request a rent increase that you declined before issuing the S21?

If they didn't, it wouldn't seem sensible to evict rent paying tenants to get some new ones in before even asking the current ones to pay more rent. Have you seen the property advertised to rent or are you just speculating?

You don't HAVE to leave at the end of the S21. Hence the previous post suggesting that's not what it actually says. They're just requesting you leave, and if you haven't got anywhere to go then you stay put, keep paying rent and keep looking for something else. You only HAVE to leave after it's been to court and the LL has appointed bailiffs.

CSI_Yorkshire

byronwells said:

CSI_Yorkshire said:

byronwells said:

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July..

I bet that's not what it says.

Sorry but don't waste peoples time by posting just to get your posts up when you have not even bothered reading and answering the actual question....

Your question is based on a false premise, which is exactly what I pointed out.

The S21 does not require you to move out by the end of July, so you are not "running out of time before you are homeless".

Other people reading the board might have a similar misconception, so it needs that clarification.

If the LL wanted a higher rent, there are easier ways to do it than S21 and then the potential court costs, eviction costs, repairs and delays, period without rent...  S13?  Just asking you if you agree to an increase?

There's nothing stopping you asking your LL questions.  Why do you think there would be?  If they want to manage through an agency though, they might not respond.

And I take offence that you would suggest I post simply for statistics.  That's a horrible accusation.

saajan_12

byronwells said:

Alright guys

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July.. Everything is correct.. - well that can't be correct.. A S21 notice can only say that they can go to court to evict from end of July. You can still legally stay there until the possession date from the court. You'd just have to pay rent as normal plus the court fee (~£3-400)
The only issue that we are having is trying to get another property to rent..  It's a nightmare and really stressing us out.  - ultimately you will probably have to move, so I'd keep searching hard, maybe even relax the area / size you're looking for despite the advice about having a bit more time. 
We are thinking that the Landlord want's new tenants to get a higher rent than they did from us.. Please not we have going trough a letting agency. My query is if we have got the landlords details can we or should we contact the landlord and suggest that we can pay a little bit more rent than we were doing so before.. Or just leave it?? - no harm in asking, but if that was they case why wouldn't they have asked for more rent? By evicting, they have the costs of advertising, rental void, referencing, etc. Sure the agent may have hoodwinked the LL to get more fees, but equally maybe they're just getting ready to sell / move in. So again, no harm but I wouldn't pin hopes on this. 

It's a nightmare at the moment trying to find another property to rent and are running out of time before we are homeless - no you're not. You won't be homeless for ~6 months I'd guess. 

Comments in line. Understanding what the S21 really means IS relevant to the pressure you feel to move out. 

grumiofoundation

Have you checked if the Section 21 (which as above is not a date you HAVE to leave by) is valid?

Deposit (if paid) protected? Gas safety certificate etc

oliver1951

If you haven’t, have a look at the Shelter site on section 21 notices. Some solid info there. 

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/section_21_eviction

km1500

also have in mind your next rental may (will?) require references from this landlord

MultiFuelBurner

byronwells said:

Alright guys

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July.. Everything is correct.. The only issue that we are having is trying to get another property to rent..  It's a nightmare and really stressing us out.  We are thinking that the Landlord want's new tenants to get a higher rent than they did from us.. Please not we have going trough a letting agency. My query is if we have got the landlords details can we or should we contact the landlord and suggest that we can pay a little bit more rent than we were doing so before.. Or just leave it?? 

It's a nightmare at the moment trying to find another property to rent and are running out of time before we are homeless

Are you a good regular payer, if so contact the LL and they may have been caught out by the interest hike needing to raise the rent higher than normal or are thinking of selling up.

We have a 2 bed ground floor flat with garden coming up in 2 months and already we have 60+ applicants so I am not surprised you are finding it difficult.

We are seeing people offer over the asking rent to get to the top of the list. 

I don't know what the solution is letting agents have few available properties they mainly take details and put everyone forward for each property. Word of mouth, walking around look for property to rent signs, openrent and all the normal social medias.

propertyrental

byronwells said:

we have been served a section 21 which we need to move out by the end of July..

byronwells said:

CSI_Yorkshire said:

I bet that's not what it says.

Sorry but don't waste peoples time by posting just to get your posts up when you have not even bothered reading and answering the actual question....

CSI was not wasting your, or other peoples' time.  The point being made is that S1 Notices  do not give a 'move-out' date. They give a date after which the LL can, if he chooses, apply to a court for possession - a process that can take further months (after the initial 2 month S21 timeframe.)

Everything is correct.. 

Are you sure? Have you checked all 85 questions in this checklist? Given you are seeking help due to the difficulty finding a new tenancy it's worth making sure the S21 is valid. Many are not

S21 checklist (Is a S21 valid?)