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Parking Charge Notice - Defence Submission

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  • Thanks. One little point. The pay and display machine I used was an old 'coin only' one (photographed) that has now been replaced with a modern 'card or coin' (photographed). It failed to give me change but had no notice saying that overpayment was accepted. The money they kept would have bought a few minutes additional parking at their published rate. Worth mentioning? 
  • Castle
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    Thanks. One little point. The pay and display machine I used was an old 'coin only' one (photographed) that has now been replaced with a modern 'card or coin' (photographed). It failed to give me change but had no notice saying that overpayment was accepted. The money they kept would have bought a few minutes additional parking at their published rate. Worth mentioning? 
    HMRC v NCP supports your defence that the contract is concluded when the overpayment is accepted.
  • DLUHC Code of Practice  defines consideration period as "time allowed for a driver to read and understand the terms and conditions applying on controlled land, identify and access appropriate space in which to park their vehicle, ending when the vehicle is parked, or departs" - for P&D parking 5min and Grace period as "length of time to be added to a parking period within which time no parking charge applies" Does this mean in P&D car parks the driver should be given 15 minutes before a PCN can be served?
  • Coupon-mad
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    In future yes. 
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Thanks Castle. An overpayment was taken but not 'accepted' as there was no notice saying so - and this means that the payee is technically in breach of contract - I wonder.
  • Thank you Coupon-mad. Your v. helpful template WS gives a link for the Government's analysis of debt fees (para 12):

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file1171438/Draft_IA_-Private_Parking_Code_of_Practice_.pdf

    This link comes up with "respnse_info" "status" "not found"

    I hope I haven't made a schoolboy error.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,424 Forumite
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    Looks like they moved it recently, as they are working on the final IA.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,424 Forumite
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    Yes that is it.  Actual IA due out soon.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Thanks both. Got it.
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