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  • paul991
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    if the covenant is put on by the builder its worth talking to them as they are not usually bothered once all the houses have been sold or 5  years and they may lift it if asked
  • ecraig
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    It's a fairly standard covenant in homes built recently. The council won't be interested to advise as it's typically a permitted development. All they want to know is that building control is notified of installation once the job is done.
    As for the house builder, they would be foolish to say no since they will have to fit panels by standard to any new houses in the next couple years.
    If all of the houses on the development have sold, or the houses on your street have sold, that specific street scene won't be marketed anymore to prospective customers so it wont make a difference to the saleability.

    It's not advice. But a reality: if you done the job anyway without consent from the builder, it would only be a problem if someone decides to invoke the covenant. If you chat with your neighbours and get them onboard with your plans, they are unlikely to be that person who invokes it.

    Maybe check the rest of the contract and see who in the street is not obeying the rules.
    Any sign written commercial vehicles when they shouldn't be there? Anyone keeping their wheelie bins our the front when they should be hidden from street view? Who has replaced the brown windows with white ones when they are meant to have only brown?

    Some typical examples of how people disobey some realistic covenants every day of the week..
  • bhjm
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    ecraig said:
    It's a fairly standard covenant in homes built recently. The council won't be interested to advise as it's typically a permitted development. All they want to know is that building control is notified of installation once the job is done.
    As for the house builder, they would be foolish to say no since they will have to fit panels by standard to any new houses in the next couple years.
    If all of the houses on the development have sold, or the houses on your street have sold, that specific street scene won't be marketed anymore to prospective customers so it wont make a difference to the saleability.

    It's not advice. But a reality: if you done the job anyway without consent from the builder, it would only be a problem if someone decides to invoke the covenant. If you chat with your neighbours and get them onboard with your plans, they are unlikely to be that person who invokes it.

    Maybe check the rest of the contract and see who in the street is not obeying the rules.
    Any sign written commercial vehicles when they shouldn't be there? Anyone keeping their wheelie bins our the front when they should be hidden from street view? Who has replaced the brown windows with white ones when they are meant to have only brown?

    Some typical examples of how people disobey some realistic covenants every day of the week..
    thanks - I agree.

    ALl houses have been sold long time ago (estate was built in 2008/2009)

    just a quick look on google maps reveals, some PV in the Neighborhood.

  • bhjm
    bhjm Posts: 341 Forumite
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    just to give you the latest update - not sure with what kind of experts I was dealing with so far... But I feel it`s somewhat good :smile:


    thats the reply I got from DWH (David Wilson Homes who built the house) after I asked them where to send the Planning permission / request after the council confirmed to me it`s an permitted development. 
    Having discussed this with my colleague who deals with such applications I have been notified that the Restrictive Covenant has expired therefore permission to install solar panels is not required by DWH.


  • Martyn1981
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    bhjm said:
    just to give you the latest update - not sure with what kind of experts I was dealing with so far... But I feel it`s somewhat good :smile:


    thats the reply I got from DWH (David Wilson Homes who built the house) after I asked them where to send the Planning permission / request after the council confirmed to me it`s an permitted development. 
    Having discussed this with my colleague who deals with such applications I have been notified that the Restrictive Covenant has expired therefore permission to install solar panels is not required by DWH.


    That's excellent news and progress. Also shows that the common sense responses you got on here from some who suggested the developers would no longer be interested, was well made.

    Have to say, that the speed with which you've progressed all of this, despite english not being your first language, is remarkable.

    So .... looks like PV on the house is now OK, is that right? And how do you feel about the garage, do you see any problems, or think the neighbours will be positive?
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • bhjm
    bhjm Posts: 341 Forumite
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    bhjm said:
    just to give you the latest update - not sure with what kind of experts I was dealing with so far... But I feel it`s somewhat good :smile:


    thats the reply I got from DWH (David Wilson Homes who built the house) after I asked them where to send the Planning permission / request after the council confirmed to me it`s an permitted development. 
    Having discussed this with my colleague who deals with such applications I have been notified that the Restrictive Covenant has expired therefore permission to install solar panels is not required by DWH.


    That's excellent news and progress. Also shows that the common sense responses you got on here from some who suggested the developers would no longer be interested, was well made.

    Have to say, that the speed with which you've progressed all of this, despite english not being your first language, is remarkable.

    So .... looks like PV on the house is now OK, is that right? And how do you feel about the garage, do you see any problems, or think the neighbours will be positive?
    Thanks Martyn !  

    it`s probably a longer story. I have different view on how to approach things as being officially classed as an immigrant (as I fall under immigration control), my children are dual citizen and my partner is British.(and I don`t want to go into political discussions here, as practically even someone moving for example from the north of England to London is a migrant).

    Thanks again for your support and I probably will keep this thread open with the next steps. Currently it`s exchang of Contracts (this week) and completion the week thereafter.
  • I need aircon in the UK i do not cope in the heat at all  :D
  • bhjm
    bhjm Posts: 341 Forumite
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    I need aircon in the UK i do not cope in the heat at all  :D
    I actually have one in the place I rent. it`s a life saver ;-)
  • bhjm
    bhjm Posts: 341 Forumite
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    Hi All,
    I thought giving you an update.

    I had to companies here to give me a quote. Both quoted similar but with different products

    1x with Jinko Panels and Solis Inverter+ batteries (can be exchanged for Growatt I was told)
    1x Longi Solar panels  and FOX ESS Inverter + batteries

    both plan to have the "main" inverter for the panels from the roof sitting near the batteries in the house. WHile 1 smaller inverter to be located in the Garage and sent the AC back to house.

    both calculate around 7 - 7,3 kwh

    any thoughts, comments, recommendations or ideas?
  • Screwdriva
    Screwdriva Posts: 1,528 Forumite
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    edited 17 July 2023 at 8:17AM
    bhjm said:

    I had to companies here to give me a quote. Both quoted similar but with different products

    1x with Jinko Panels and Solis Inverter+ batteries (can be exchanged for Growatt I was told)
    1x Longi Solar panels  and FOX ESS Inverter + batteries

    both plan to have the "main" inverter for the panels from the roof sitting near the batteries in the house. WHile 1 smaller inverter to be located in the Garage and sent the AC back to house.

    both calculate around 7 - 7,3 kwh

    any thoughts, comments, recommendations or ideas?
    Sorry to share, the quotes provided to you are the bottom of the bargain basement brands for PV kit. 

    I'm not sure what you've been quoted but a 18 X SHARP 410W black Panels + SolarEdge 6kW Inverter + Optimizers w/ 20 year warranty should cost you no more than £8500 installed. 

    If your projected household consumption is > 4mW per year (definite if you use heat pump), a battery may make sense to add to the above system. 13kWh can range from £5K for the cheap stuff to £9K for a Powerwall 2.

    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
    -  Triple aspect. (22% ENE/ 33% SSE/ 45% WSW)
    -  Viessmann 200-W on Advanced Weather Comp. (the most efficient gas boiler sold)

    Feel free to DM me if I can help with any energy saving!
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