LL wants to do work but it’s very inconvenient

marcia_

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

Yellowsub2000

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

It’s totally different borrow funds for something like a property or paying funds to use goods or services like a property.


if you were renting an office space and half of it was unavailable for a while due to work being done then the rent would be half.


it’s the same with anything you are paying for goods or services if you are not getting what you are paying for then it’s unfair.

if I pay full price for goods or services that I’m only getting half of what I was paying for then I would not be happy but that’s me personally 

Sunsaru

Yellowsub2000 said:

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

It’s totally different borrow funds for something like a property or paying funds to use goods or services like a property.


if you were renting an office space and half of it was unavailable for a while due to work being done then the rent would be half.


it’s the same with anything you are paying for goods or services if you are not getting what you are paying for then it’s unfair.

if I pay full price for goods or services that I’m only getting half of what I was paying for then I would not be happy but that’s me personally 

Why don't you ask Charlie or Chris or whoever as you seem to ask questions but refuse to listen to answers.

Also, as someone who was in a rental that had to have to roof replaced and brickwork done, the workmen never came in the house. Not that real world experience comes close to a YouTuber.

Yellowsub2000

I wonder what the ombudsman would say once its all started next year?

im sure they would agree the tenants don’t have to pay full rent if they only get half the house.

also it would be good to use things like this when negotiating lower rents with the ombudsman saying there are problems with damp or somethings are broken and have needed to be fixed but the LL didn’t pay for them to be fixed.

anselld

Has the L actually stated that half the property will be unavailable?
That would seem odd since ...
    Scaffolding - outside
    Roof - outside
    Walls - not clear what is required but seems unlikely to be demolition
    Dust -  dustsheets
    Builders - normal working hours, inconvenient but necessary.

Perhaps a goodwill gesture for inconvenience (so long as the T retains goodwill) but half rent is very optimistic.

marcia_

Yellowsub2000 said:

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

It’s totally different borrow funds for something like a property or paying funds to use goods or services like a property.


if you were renting an office space and half of it was unavailable for a while due to work being done then the rent would be half.


it’s the same with anything you are paying for goods or services if you are not getting what you are paying for then it’s unfair.

if I pay full price for goods or services that I’m only getting half of what I was paying for then I would not be happy but that’s me personally 

 Yes it is you personally and doesn't reflect the real world 

Yellowsub2000

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

It’s totally different borrow funds for something like a property or paying funds to use goods or services like a property.


if you were renting an office space and half of it was unavailable for a while due to work being done then the rent would be half.


it’s the same with anything you are paying for goods or services if you are not getting what you are paying for then it’s unfair.

if I pay full price for goods or services that I’m only getting half of what I was paying for then I would not be happy but that’s me personally 

 Yes it is you personally and doesn't reflect the real world 

So you would be happy to pay full price for half the goods or services you thought you were getting?

marcia_

Yellowsub2000 said:

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

marcia_ said:

Yellowsub2000 said:

Apparently this person says the roof need to partly come off and scaffolding and waterproof sheets all around that part of the property. The rest of the house will get dusty and workmen in and out.

If you are only getting half the goods or services you are paying for you should only pay half the cost

  They will still be living there and not getting half the 'goods' this isn't like buying something from shop or having a meal out. 

 If I needed such work on my home I would need to continue living here do you think the bank would accept me to stop paying my mortgage because my stuff is getting dusty. 

It’s totally different borrow funds for something like a property or paying funds to use goods or services like a property.


if you were renting an office space and half of it was unavailable for a while due to work being done then the rent would be half.


it’s the same with anything you are paying for goods or services if you are not getting what you are paying for then it’s unfair.

if I pay full price for goods or services that I’m only getting half of what I was paying for then I would not be happy but that’s me personally 

 Yes it is you personally and doesn't reflect the real world 

So you would be happy to pay full price for half the goods or services you thought you were getting?

 How are you getting half a service? You will still have exclusive use of your home 

silvercar

Tenant reports a problem. Landlord agrees to fix it. This fix will then improve the tenants life, not having to live in damp mouldy conditions. Most tenants would be happy that the landlord is fixing problems that will improve their living conditions and put up with any inconvenience while it is being done.

noitsnotme

Yellowsub2000 said:

I wonder what the ombudsman would say once its all started next year?

im sure they would agree the tenants don’t have to pay full rent if they only get half the house.

also it would be good to use things like this when negotiating lower rents with the ombudsman saying there are problems with damp or somethings are broken and have needed to be fixed but the LL didn’t pay for them to be fixed.

As pointed out elsewhere, according to the government page, the ombudsman won’t manage rent disputes.  That will remain the responsibility of the courts.…

”The First-tier Tribunal is part of the courts system. Disputes which will still require judgments from the First-tier Tribunal include rent disputes, appeals by landlords against financial penalties imposed by local councils and applications to recover prohibited fees under the Tenant Fees Act.”

Here’s the link (again!) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/private-rented-sector-ombudsman-renters-reform-bill