CityFibre

GTR_King

So CityFibre are installing in my area doing the streets/road outside block of flats I live in, all the houses say register for interested full fibre coming soon but all the flats say we don’t have permission from your landlord to install full fibre. 

How do I go about getting full fibre I have emailed management agency that owns block of flats but no reply till Monday 

Full Fibre goes live from September 2023 

daveyjp

You need to wait for a reply from the agent, but in the meantime read your lease and see what is says about you and your landlords rights to install cable.

One issue could be any cable will have to be routed along areas of the property you don't own so you will need permission.

If you currently have a hard wired phone line it may make things easier if any of that is in ducting which can be used.

GTR_King

The flat I live in is already FTTC ready with internet sockets. So dunno what I need to do

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GTR_King said:

The flat I live in is already FTTC ready with internet sockets. So dunno what I need to do

FullFibre doesn’t use any existing FTTC wiring or sockets: there is a clue in the name. For standard FTTP installs, the FTTP provider runs a fibre connection from either a pole or the street to a Customer Service Point usually located on an outside wall. They then run a fibre link from the CSP to what is known as an Optical Network Termination (ONT) in your home. I suspect that running fibre to individual flats might require access to to ducts; cavities etc hence the Landlord’s concern.

GTR_King

That could be right but have Emailed management company each flat have Ethernet sockets in most rooms to connect the router. So would have to connect that to the city fibre network I guess pretty sure management company can’t say no  

daveyjp

The ethernet socket will connect to the building network.

City fibre install a new cable, new external and internal boxes and a new router.

GTR_King

What about the existing Ethernet sockets inside the flats? Will they need to be changed or just the cables to the box outside block of flats? Or is it harder than that for each flat

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GTR_King said:

What about the existing Ethernet sockets inside the flats? Will they need to be changed or just the cables to the box outside block of flats? Or is it harder than that for each flat

The ONT contains a FTTP modem. It is perfectly possible to connect the ONT to the existing Ethernet cable but you might end up with a speed restriction. Cat 6 ethernet cables are recommended for FTTP. 

How is your present broadband provision provided? Where is your modem/router located? 

GTR_King

Modem/Router is connected to Ethernet plug in the wall via Ethernet cable… which is then coming from open reach box outside on walls of flats which then goes to open reach green box at end of street 

Will they have to upgrade the cables from the box outside of the flats going into the flats or will they not need fo do that 

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Are you referring to a standard copper wire telephone connection with two sockets? This is standard for FTTC. The C stands for cabinet: that is, full fibre is run to the cabinet but your actual broadband connection uses the copper phone line that runs from the cabinet to your home. FTTP is a fibre connection directly to your home.

The box above plays no part in a full fibre broadband connection.

The process of installing FTTP is described here:

https://tom.goskar.com/2013/09/20/my-fibre-to-the-premises-fttp-installation-part-1/

The box (ONT) that is installed in your home looks like this:



The ONT contains a built in FTTP modem.

This is what it looks like in my home. The old phone connection is on the left and the new FTTP ONT/modem is on the right of the picture. The ONT is connected to a router ( no modem required) by a Cat 6 Ethernet cable.

GTR_King

No my plug/wall socket looks like that with 1 Ethernet socket in most rooms of my flat, where the Ethernet port goes from that to my router with Adapter for phone line if needs be, so will that not work for ultrafast fibre? How do I get that installed into my flat? Think I have FTTP as get speeds up to 30MBPS-60MBPS but not sure tho