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Broadband options for a home with no physical above ground phone line.

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  • iniltous
    iniltous Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    edited 15 May 2023 at 7:29PM
    You can have an Openreach based ‘landline’  without having any telephone service over it , it can be for broadband only , but much like Virgin , taking broadband without telephony is only slightly cheaper than taking both services.
    If you want to have the option to consider using the likes of Sky , BT , TT , etc over Openreach, then you obviously will need a landline, but as said you can have standalone broadband over that Openreach ‘line’ , landline and telephony are not really the same thing .

    If you don’t want another ‘landline’ installed, then as said , all you will have available is what you already have because only Virgin use Virgin network, or you could use mobile communications…
    if another ( alternative) network operator is available they will also have to install a ‘line’ , it doesn’t make any difference if the call it a landline , a broadband line or a fishing line , if you just want broadband on it , that’s what they will provide.
    There is  a pretty good chance there was an Openreach line into the property that can be simply restored into service .
  • The_Salad
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    wongataa said:
    The_Salad said:
    Unless you live in Hull, you should be able to get a physical Openreach line installed by ordering broadband from a provider that uses their local loop infrastructure.

    You can use the BT wholesale availability checker with your postcode to get an idea of what sort of connection would be available if you go this route.
    Thanks but we were hoping that we wouldn't need to put back a landline.  The house hasn't had one since we moved in.

    You already have a landline, one from Virgin.  A landline is just a physical connection whether it is used for voice calls, internet access, or both.  There is no requirement to ever plug a phone into one and use it for voice calls if all you want to use it for is internet access.
    Correct, perhaps my wording wasn't sufficiently accurate.  We don't have a phone line coming in to the roof from a wooden pole out on the pavement.
  • Neil_Jones
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    The_Salad said:
    wongataa said:
    The_Salad said:
    Unless you live in Hull, you should be able to get a physical Openreach line installed by ordering broadband from a provider that uses their local loop infrastructure.

    You can use the BT wholesale availability checker with your postcode to get an idea of what sort of connection would be available if you go this route.
    Thanks but we were hoping that we wouldn't need to put back a landline.  The house hasn't had one since we moved in.

    You already have a landline, one from Virgin.  A landline is just a physical connection whether it is used for voice calls, internet access, or both.  There is no requirement to ever plug a phone into one and use it for voice calls if all you want to use it for is internet access.
    Correct, perhaps my wording wasn't sufficiently accurate.  We don't have a phone line coming in to the roof from a wooden pole out on the pavement.

    That doesn't necessarily mean anything, plenty of phone lines go underground, especially if they are more modern (older properties are usually served by a telegraph pole as the feature was retro added, but newer properties were planned for phones and had them installed as part of the design, and usually underground)

    Where I live there isn't a telegraph pole at all but I have a phone line and FTTC internet (and I could get FTTP if I wanted it), but I don't see a wooden pole anywhere.

    You'd do better to see if there is a BT socket somewhere on the property:

    If there is, its probably just needs connecting at the exchange; the presence (or not) of a telegraph pole doesn't mean anything.
  • 35har1old
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    littleboo said:
    It’s not clear what you are looking for. You have a line from Virgin, only Virgin can supply a service over that line. So you either need another line installed, from either Openreach or an Altnet (if you have an Altnet available to you) or you need to look 4g/5g as already suggested.
    If full fibre is available in you area Openreach will install full fibre from the nearest underground point. They will install to a outside wall where you want the router to be adjacent power supply for both.
    Depending on the age of the property their might be a old BT socket which could have been ducted back to the underground box if this isn't in a suitable  positiion they can pick up the duct  and reroute it to the required position 
    But you do have to select  a broadband supplier for them to instruct Openreach to install
    Data only line
  • J_B
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    We can only get 2Mbps with Openreach broadband so we use https://www.airband.co.uk/ which requires a small 'dish' on the side of the house.
    We get about 40 Mbps which is adequate for us
    It's sometimes unreliable (and the their C/S is abysmal) but most of the time it's good

  • Starlink has an offer for those who live in remote areas:

    https://www.starlink.com/
  • Flopfluppet
    Flopfluppet Posts: 30 Forumite
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    I used an independent company local to me to provide BB only with no phone service but we have a pole outside bringing the line in. 
    That said, we're wanting to switch providers and Sky is the best at the moment for us. They don't need to visit to set it up so obviously the wire from the pole does it all. Calls will be made via Internet.  No set up fee, no line rental. You can then chose to actually make calls or not. Or you can use it for incoming calls only. But no fees seems good.
    Aside from that, find a local independent supplier. At the moment all new BB connections are being installed with a phone line as analogue calls will be switched off at the end of next year (I think!)
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