Autonomous driving legal next year

MouldyOldDough

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - it will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

room512

Maybe it is just me but what is the point? If you have to keep your eyes on the road and concentrate then you might as well be driving the car?

facade

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - it will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Quite probably it will handle a blowout far better than the average driver.

It would have real time access to tyre pressures, yaw sensor, braking system, throttle, steering etc.

user1977

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - it will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Can you describe what you should do as a driver if you had a blowout at 70mph?

Aretnap

user1977 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - it will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Can you describe what you should do as a driver if you had a blowout at 70mph?

1 Put your hands over your head

2 Lean forwards
3 Put your head between your legs

4 Kiss you bum goodbye

ElefantEd

zagfles said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Potholes, Wornout road markings and double lining (where lines are moved temporarily due to roadworks) these appear to have been ignored...
How will an autonomous system cope with these? 

Badly it seems - many cars now have Lane Trace Assist which will steer if it thinks you're drifting out of the lane, so if you're just trying to avoid a pothole it could drive you straight into it as happened to someone I know.

Yes, we've just an MG4, which is great in almost every way except that you have to turn off the Keep Lane Assist at the start of every journey or it constantly wrenches the steering wheel to the side as it thinks you are straying from your lane, when in fact the roads are single track or have so many potholes down the edges that everyone drives down the middle. This so called safety feature is also fooled by lines on the road created eg by new tarmac. I'm sure it's fine for motorways where the lanes are wide and well marked, but is distinctly unsafe for rural roads like our local ones!

MouldyOldDough

user1977 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - imt will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Can you describe what you should do as a driver if you had a blowout at 70mph?

Yes don't brake 
Don't accelerate 
Just hold the wheel and decelerate 
Warning lights on if possible 
Pull over to the side of the road if possible
Avoiding more potholes if possible 
Pray if possible
How many of the "if possible" can an autonomous control system handle? 

user1977

MouldyOldDough said:

user1977 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - imt will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Can you describe what you should do as a driver if you had a blowout at 70mph?

Yes don't brake 
Don't accelerate 
Just hold the wheel and decelerate 
Warning lights on if possible 
Pull over to the side of the road if possible
Avoiding more potholes if possible 
Pray if possible
How many of the "if possible" can an autonomous control system handle? 

Isn't that all a "set of rules" though? No reason why the car can't detect what's happened and do all of that.

Sea_Shell

One day "Hal" decides it's not going to take you to your destination!! 

MouldyOldDough

user1977 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

user1977 said:

MouldyOldDough said:

photome said:

  Mine  and many other cars can already do this.  Apart from  of course the hands free bit although I can leave go of steering wheel for a second or two before the warning kicks in

it works very well in a contra flow near to me. Accelerates,brakes and steers , keeping the same distance from the car in front


i don’t have a problem with the new rules re the mustang, it will be everywhere eventually

What about puntures too - I don't believe a blow out on the motorway at 70mph can be handled by a computer - imt will just work on a set of rules - not an actual real life situation

Can you describe what you should do as a driver if you had a blowout at 70mph?

Yes don't brake 
Don't accelerate 
Just hold the wheel and decelerate 
Warning lights on if possible 
Pull over to the side of the road if possible
Avoiding more potholes if possible 
Pray if possible
How many of the "if possible" can an autonomous control system handle? 

Isn't that all a "set of rules" though? No reason why the car can't detect what's happened and do all of that.

Potholes are avoidable by myself not by a computer (at the moment)