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  • Remove para 4 and 5 because they are irrelevant to your case (you've not seen the claim, and at this stage after a CCJ set aside, they won't send template letters; it will progress to a hearing).

    Change this (the bits I've highlighted) into your own words instead, or remove these phrases, because it talks about a claim you've never seen and 'keeper liability' is irrelevant in your case:
    1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars.   


    I would also recommend you do a separate Witness Statement and evidence to support this defence (now = a full bundle and a costs assessment together with your defence, even though the Judge only asked for the latter) because after a set aside, that stage stupidly gets bypassed by most local courts, leaving the person with zero evidence filed.  Unfair but true, so pre-empt that with a full bundle.

    Exemplar WS bundles to copy from are in the recent threads by @aphex007 and @SJRRJS which also include a costs assessment.

    Make sure your bundle is emailed and/or posted to the local court (not the CCBC in Northampton) and to the C's solicitors too.


    Thanks for that, I have implemented the changes into my defence. *Exemplar WS bundles* Can you send me a link to the bundles  please? I cannot locate it? Kind regards 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 18 April 2023 at 7:08PM
    Those are already links to those threads (effectively).  We give the usernames so that you can go to their profiles and find their discussions. Two clicks away.

    We do it this way so new posters get more confident as to how to find things and in particular, what is in a username's profile page which may be useful later for you when researching and wanting to read something a person has posted.
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  • Those are already links to those threads (effectively).  We give the usernames so that you can go to their profiles and find their discussions. Two clicks away.

    We do it this way so new posters get more confident as to how to find things and in particular, what is in a username's profile page which may be useful later for you when researching and wanting to read something a person has posted.
    Ok thanks I will carry on searching. I will keep you posted once I find it and use it. Thanks for all your kind help.
  • I have submitted my defence today around 30 minutes ago but have not received an auto correspondence confirmation from dcb legal and Shoreditch county Court. Should I be worried? Thanks.
  • Umkomaas
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    I have submitted my defence today around 30 minutes ago but have not received an auto correspondence confirmation from dcb legal and Shoreditch county Court. Should I be worried? Thanks.
    You're submitting outside of normal business hours (9-4) which has been known to cause problems from time to time. Keep an eye on it this evening, if you don't get the acknowledgment, try again tomorrow morning. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Umkomaas said:
    I have submitted my defence today around 30 minutes ago but have not received an auto correspondence confirmation from dcb legal and Shoreditch county Court. Should I be worried? Thanks.
    You're submitting outside of normal business hours (9-4) which has been known to cause problems from time to time. Keep an eye on it this evening, if you don't get the acknowledgment, try again tomorrow morning. 
    The issue is today was my last day to send it. Anyway I have evidence that I have sent it, I will try again in the morning. Thanks
  • KeithP
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    Umkomaas said:
    I have submitted my defence today around 30 minutes ago but have not received an auto correspondence confirmation from dcb legal and Shoreditch county Court. Should I be worried? Thanks.
    You're submitting outside of normal business hours (9-4) which has been known to cause problems from time to time. Keep an eye on it this evening, if you don't get the acknowledgment, try again tomorrow morning. 
    The issue is today was my last day to send it.
    Then your deadline was 4pm today.
    Like the banks, anything that takes place after the end of the working day is attributed to the next working day.

    Keep your fingers crossed, and as previously mentioned, resend the email during working hours early tomorrow.
  • 1505grandad
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    Just checking  -  is this correct?:-

    "I have submitted my defence today.................Shoreditch county Court."
  • Umkomaas
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    Just checking  -  is this correct?:-

    "I have submitted my defence today.................Shoreditch county Court."
    🤦‍♂️. I hope not!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Umkomaas said:
    Just checking  -  is this correct?:-

    "I have submitted my defence today.................Shoreditch county Court."
    🤦‍♂️. I hope not!
    No lol I sent to dcblegal.co.uk & enquiries.clerkenwellandshoreditch.countycourt@justice.gov.uk.

    DCb legal I have an auto reply but not from Shoreditch county court. 
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