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Energy & Gas Consumpion on a Semi Detached house

Haydenlm1
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Hi guys,
I live in a semi detached house with my parents and 2 siblings.
My 2 siblings are  playing games etc on their computer for majority of the day. Myself, mum and dad are always at work so are never home.
We are consuming around 10,843KwH a year in electricity and 15,830Kwh a year for Gas!

I believe we've had a tank with an immersion heater with a tank which I believe I have turned off, but the system is so old, i do not understand it..The energy bill has stayed the same..

We hardly have the gas on as our radiators are quite old and need replacing so its not very efficient ,and there are hardly people in the house during the day etc so are completely buffled by the consumption on this..

Anyone in a family of 5 getting those kind of numbers on a Semi detached house??


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  • Gas seems OK, electricity use seems quite high.
  • markin
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    The bill would stay the same as its usually just a fixed direct debit, take daily reading for a few days at the same time every day, if you don't have a smart meter and online access.

    You can usually trace the wire from the immersion tank to the switch.

    Do you you all use an electric shower not fed from the tank?
  • MultiFuelBurner
    MultiFuelBurner Posts: 2,928 Forumite
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    edited 12 April 2023 at 5:15AM
    10834 kWh for a house heated by gas is extremely high so time to list what's on in the house and monitor usage. Mind you everyone will have to buy it as alone the electricity bill will be £3900+

    Big guzzlers of electricity can be

    Immersion heaters
    Electric showers
    High end gaming desktops
    Big American fridge freezers or lots of old fridge freezers
    Pond pumps left on 24/7

  • Spoonie_Turtle
    Spoonie_Turtle Posts: 10,595 Forumite
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    That is very high electricity use unless you have EVs, we're considered high users and before trying to cut down we were using just over 10,000kWh/yr including 3,000-3,500kWh for heating and hot water (4 adults, 2 at home most days now, 3-bed semi EPC D). 

    Electric shower, and old fridge and freezers are the main culprits for us beyond the heating/hot water.
  • cm4ever
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    edited 12 April 2023 at 7:20AM
    Haydenlm1 said:
    We hardly have the gas on as our radiators are quite old and need replacing so its not very efficient ,and there are hardly people in the house during the day etc so are completely buffled by the consumption on this..


    Hi, just some points worth noting about the gas usage.

    - just because the radiators are 'old' doesn't necessarily mean they need replacing.

    - when the gch is on, check each radiator to make sure it gets fully hot across the whole radiator, any radiators where it's cold at the top may need bleeding to remove air from the system.

    - depending on the size and panel design 'type' of the radiators, they may not be sized correctly for the rooms.

    - do any of the radiators have thermostatic valves and if so what are they set to, these will help control when the radiators come on and off when the heating is active. If they've been turned fully open, that'll use way more gas.

    - is there a room thermostat anyway in the house and what temperature has it been set at and has it been checked to ensure it's working, that could make a big difference. The higher the setting, the higher the gad bill. The boiler may be constantly trying but failing to reach that set temperature.

    - if the room thermostat is old consider replacing with a newer digital room thermostat, the non app controlled versions are really cheap.

    - how and for how long are you heating the water in the hot tank for on a daily basis? If using the immersion circuit this will be a high electric cost adding up, if by gas it could need servicing and you need to think how long it's heating the water for, to what temperature.

    - is the hot water tank fully insulated?

    - when was the central heating boiler and water tank last serviced/checked?

    - if the gch is 'hardly on' what and how is your house being heated? (if it's with electric heaters, what sort/size/power and how long are these used?

    - do you know if you have any cavity wall insulation?

    Sorry for all the questions, but hopefully this highlights just one assumption could make a big difference especially to the gas and electric usage......

    Edit: Forgot to say all your radiators may need balancing so that they heat up evenly throughout the house.
  • MattMattMattUK
    MattMattMattUK Posts: 11,683 Forumite
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    Your gas is high if you "hardly have the gas on", your electricity usage is insanely high.
  • Is the consumption figures based on actual or estimate reads?
  • macman
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    Basics: does the property have gas CH and DHW? 
    If you are 'hardly using the gas' then how are you heating and hot watering? Any other gas appliances?
    If the 'bill has stayed the same' then you are doing extremely well, as everyone else has had an increase of around 250%...
    Your electricity usage is more than double what might be expected, so something is clearly amiss.
    Focus on heating and hot water, because this will account for about 80% of your total energy usage.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Robin9
    Robin9 Posts: 12,894 Forumite
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    edited 12 April 2023 at 8:45AM
    You are going to be above average but with some effort by all of you you can really bring that electric down

    Walk around the house and note what kit you have - look for those high energy items and what is on 24 hours a day.  Those heaters, fridge/freezer (how old , what rating) , cooking, lighting (still got halogens or got LED).  How do you cook -  do eyou eat at different times ?

    Read your meters at the same time every day - keep records

    Are the consumptions actual or the suppliers guess ? We are consuming around 10,843KwH a year in electricity and 15,830Kwh a year for Gas!
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • Alnat1
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    Get an energy monitoring plug, usually the Tapo P110 is recommended on this forum, cost around £10. You can stick it in the socket and plug appliances into it and find out how much energy they are using. 
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