Moving to Bulgaria and working from a shared co-working space

tightauldgit

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

No automatic right, no but there are a handful that offer digital nomad visas. But those are only going to be good for a year or two. Of the options Portugal and Hungary probably look the most promising to me.  

maydin

thanks a lot

Grumpy_chap

maydin said:

Recruiting individuals from low cost areas is not as easy as it sounds as the majority of the candidates are not even speaking the language fluently, let alone possessing all the skills required. 

That sounds rather dismissive really - I cannot think of any skill set where people from anywhere are not (or cannot) be equally as capable at anything as people from the UK.  Everywhere is equally capable of training highly skilled engineers, medics, lawyers, accountants, tradespeople, etc, etc.

Language might be more of a challenge, but there are many parts of the world with lower cost of living where English is the first or nearly equal-first language.

maydin said:

The work may require some UK office presence once a while.

This is likely to be a more valid reason why this would not work - who pays for the time and cost of these international trips?  How do they impact on the work-life balance of the individual?

You also ignored the comments about data security, time zones, taxation and employment law complexities, confidentiality in a co-work space, etc.

Emmia

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?

tightauldgit

Emmia said:

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?

90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 

geordiejon

my son works as a lead developer for a software company in london, during lockdown they worked from home and it finally got to a point where the team were all working from home saving office space for the company.

anyway to the point he moved in feb 2022 to bratislava in slovakia, he needed to get residency which took 3 months in which time he couldn't leave the country, he also had to prove he had somewhere to live for a year and have a certain ammount of income plus at least 10k in the bank.
the residency is valid for 3 years and after that he will need to renew it.

he works from home,they do conference calls twice a week with head office.

Emmia

tightauldgit said:

Emmia said:

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?

90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 

The operative word in the quote is "visiting" - it would potentially depend on the employment contract the OP has. 

For example I have to attend meetings as part of my job in person regularly in the EU. I am working when I am there, and my visits count towards the 90/180 rule... But I do not have/need a visa as I am not working under an EU contract of employment.

The same applies to lorry drivers for example.

CKhalvashi

Emmia said:

tightauldgit said:

Emmia said:

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?

90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 

The operative word in the quote is "visiting" - it would potentially depend on the employment contract the OP has. 

For example I have to attend meetings as part of my job in person regularly in the EU. I am working when I am there, and my visits count towards the 90/180 rule... But I do not have/need a visa as I am not working under an EU contract of employment.

The same applies to lorry drivers for example.

It also wouldn't include working remotely outside of general business travel.

Business travel (meetings) is allowed, work is not if that work could be completed by an EU citizen or resident. This is to protect the integrity of the EU's internal job market and therefore will be strictly enforced if found out.

Emmia

CKhalvashi said:

Emmia said:

tightauldgit said:

Emmia said:

maydin said:

Emmia said:

Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...

This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?

Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?

90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 

The operative word in the quote is "visiting" - it would potentially depend on the employment contract the OP has. 

For example I have to attend meetings as part of my job in person regularly in the EU. I am working when I am there, and my visits count towards the 90/180 rule... But I do not have/need a visa as I am not working under an EU contract of employment.

The same applies to lorry drivers for example.

It also wouldn't include working remotely outside of general business travel.

Business travel (meetings) is allowed, work is not if that work could be completed by an EU citizen or resident. This is to protect the integrity of the EU's internal job market and therefore will be strictly enforced if found out.

This partly hinges on what the OPs contract of employment is, what his employer permits, and what they'll be doing.. coach drivers are working, but not in meetings for example.

But, aside from very short stays - it doesn't look very viable.

Doshwaster

geordiejon said:

my son works as a lead developer for a software company in london, during lockdown they worked from home and it finally got to a point where the team were all working from home saving office space for the company.

anyway to the point he moved in feb 2022 to bratislava in slovakia, he needed to get residency which took 3 months in which time he couldn't leave the country, he also had to prove he had somewhere to live for a year and have a certain ammount of income plus at least 10k in the bank.
the residency is valid for 3 years and after that he will need to renew it.

he works from home,they do conference calls twice a week with head office.

There are still a lot of practicalities to consider: were does the employer and employee tax and NI get paid, how would a contract dispute be handled, redundancy, access to healthcare, employment rights, pension contributions? There are big risks to both the employer and worker.