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Moving to Bulgaria and working from a shared co-working space

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  • tightauldgit
    tightauldgit Posts: 2,628 Forumite
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    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    maydin said:
    Emmia said:
    Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


    Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...
    This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?
    Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

    https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

    If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?
    90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 
    The operative word in the quote is "visiting" - it would potentially depend on the employment contract the OP has. 

    For example I have to attend meetings as part of my job in person regularly in the EU. I am working when I am there, and my visits count towards the 90/180 rule... But I do not have/need a visa as I am not working under an EU contract of employment.

    The same applies to lorry drivers for example.
    You do not have to be working under an EU contract of employment to be considered to be working in the EU, no. 

    Yes, travel for business meetings is not considered to be working for the purposes of needing a visa - but living in the EU while working for a UK company is not 'travelling for business'




  • tightauldgit
    tightauldgit Posts: 2,628 Forumite
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    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    Emmia said:
    maydin said:
    Emmia said:
    Do you have an EU passport or another means of giving you the right to work in the EU?


    Brexit means that those rights are no longer available automatically to British nationals...
    This is the problem, British multinationals do not have the right to work in the EU right?
    Looks like 90 days in every 180 days (rolling) may be allowed for visiting purposes, but that's for all your travel in the schengen area - holidays would be included. 

    https://www.gov.uk/travel-to-eu-schengen-area

    If you really want to move to the EU, do you have any suitable links to Ireland or Germany which could enable you to apply for citizenship of those countries, and thereby the ability to move and work freely?
    90 in 180 is for tourism, that doesn't allow you to work. If you want to work legally while living in the EU you're going to have to get a work permit. 
    The operative word in the quote is "visiting" - it would potentially depend on the employment contract the OP has. 

    For example I have to attend meetings as part of my job in person regularly in the EU. I am working when I am there, and my visits count towards the 90/180 rule... But I do not have/need a visa as I am not working under an EU contract of employment.

    The same applies to lorry drivers for example.
    It also wouldn't include working remotely outside of general business travel.

    Business travel (meetings) is allowed, work is not if that work could be completed by an EU citizen or resident. This is to protect the integrity of the EU's internal job market and therefore will be strictly enforced if found out.
    This partly hinges on what the OPs contract of employment is, what his employer permits, and what they'll be doing.. coach drivers are working, but not in meetings for example.

    But, aside from very short stays - it doesn't look very viable.
    In legal terms it (where 'it' refers to the need for a work permit) hinges solely on what each EU country permits visitors to do without a work permit. What your employer allows is neither here nor there. 

    In general it seems to come down to the distinction between 'travelling for business' (e.g. client meetings, attending a conference, doing a training course) and 'working' 
  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,218 Forumite
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    my son works as a lead developer for a software company in london, during lockdown they worked from home and it finally got to a point where the team were all working from home saving office space for the company.

    anyway to the point he moved in feb 2022 to bratislava in slovakia, he needed to get residency which took 3 months in which time he couldn't leave the country, he also had to prove he had somewhere to live for a year and have a certain ammount of income plus at least 10k in the bank.
    the residency is valid for 3 years and after that he will need to renew it.

    he works from home,they do conference calls twice a week with head office.
    That covers gaining the permission from Slovak authorities.

    Is the employer fully aware?
  • geordiejon
    geordiejon Posts: 256 Forumite
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    That covers gaining the permission from Slovak authorities.

    Is the employer fully aware?
    yes the employer is aware they pay him in euro's, he has a team of 5 developers and there are only 2 in the uk.
    he pays tax in slovakia and their version of n/i.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,372 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2023 at 8:51PM
    My son moved to Romania to work on site for his UK employer. He was still
    paid into his UK bank account but his employer had to pay the Romanian authorities a fee for him. Things got complicated tax wise so he was transferred to the Romanian payroll.Each country has their own employment rules. 
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