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New builds. Do you really need three toilets in a 2 bed mid/semi?

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  • lookstraightahead
    lookstraightahead Posts: 5,558 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2023 at 1:14PM
    peter3hg said:
    Some of you go to very strange dinner parties if you're discussing the bathroom situation in your house.

    There is a very weird attitude that if you personally don't like something and it doesn't fit your lifestyle then it is just a marketing gimmick.

    My grandmother refused until her death in the early 90s to have an inside toilet installed in her farmhouse as it was "unclean" and just a fashionable gimmick that would soon disappear.
    I think it's more when number of toilets takes over the space in the house if it's a new build, eg, a double room you can hardly fit a bed in, so that your guests have to crawl over the bed as it's against the wall, to hopefully gain access to the 'en-suite' in one piece. 
    If you have lots of space otherwise it's not a problem, but 4 toilets sounds like it's going to have the space for lots of guests'sleeping arrangements and often it doesn't, so I would definitely call that a marketing gimmick.

  • peter3hg
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    peter3hg said:
    Some of you go to very strange dinner parties if you're discussing the bathroom situation in your house.

    There is a very weird attitude that if you personally don't like something and it doesn't fit your lifestyle then it is just a marketing gimmick.

    My grandmother refused until her death in the early 90s to have an inside toilet installed in her farmhouse as it was "unclean" and just a fashionable gimmick that would soon disappear.
    I think it's more when number of toilets takes over the space in the house if it's a new build, eg, a double room you can hardly fit a bed in, so that your guests have to crawl over the bed as it's against the wall, to hopefully gain access to the 'en-suite' in one piece. 
    If you have lots of space otherwise it's not a problem, but 4 toilets sounds like it's going to have the space for lots of guests'sleeping arrangements and often it doesn't, so I would definitely call that a marketing gimmick.

    The example at the start of the thread looks ok to me however. The second bedroom is 3.2m x 3.1m plus it has built in wardrobes in addition to that floorspace. That is easily enough room to get a double bed in with ample space to walk around it.
    It isn't a big house but it looks ok for a 2 bed and certainly bigger than most of the Victorian era terraces that it would be competing against in the area I live.
  • lincroft1710
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    peter3hg said:
    Some of you go to very strange dinner parties if you're discussing the bathroom situation in your house.

    There is a very weird attitude that if you personally don't like something and it doesn't fit your lifestyle then it is just a marketing gimmick.

    My grandmother refused until her death in the early 90s to have an inside toilet installed in her farmhouse as it was "unclean" and just a fashionable gimmick that would soon disappear.
    I remember reading many years ago that Romany Gypsies believed it was unhygienic to have an inside toilet
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  • Teapot55
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    I reckon there’s still thousands, if not millions of turn-of-the-century terraced houses in this country with no upstairs toilet/ bathroom. 

    Some stagger downstairs in the middle of the night. Guess others have a bucket, especially as they get older. 

    Definitely not discussed at dinner parties 🤣

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  • sheramber
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    It would be very boring if we all liked the same thing.
  • sheramber said:
    It would be very boring if we all liked the same thing.
    This is very true.
    At least most have a flush nowadays. 
  • mi-key
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    edited 2 April 2023 at 5:07PM
    Boiling water taps are definitely a pointless fad to impress people with how hi tech your kitchen is. Great until they go wrong and you have to spend £1000 to replace a tap ! Plus the ones I have tried don't really work that well. 

    "Look I just made a cup of tea straight from the tap rather than waiting 1 minute for the kettle to boil!" 


  • MobileSaver
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    mi-key said:
    Boiling water taps are definitely a pointless fad to impress people with how hi tech your kitchen is.... Plus the ones I have tried don't really work that well.
    My girlfriend thought the same... until I had one installed.
    Now she uses it every single day (for cooking as well as hot drinks) and wouldn't be without it; it's quick and simple and the Quooker one we have provides actual boiling water instantly on tap.
    I also have a smaller one in my kitchenette and really missed it when it was out of action for a week, waiting three or four minutes for a kettle to boil felt like an eternity.

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  • michelle09
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    We were never bothered about an en suite until we bought this house. Wouldn't be without one now.
    ^ This. I suspect the vast majority of people who say they don't like en-suites on principle have never actually lived in a house with one.
    The advantages are so numerous and the negatives so few (the one exception being in the OP's case where the space could perhaps be put to better use) that few people would go back to a shared bathroom in their next home.
    In a similar vein I predict with utmost confidence that boiling water taps in the kitchen will eventually be de rigueur in new builds.


    We had an en-suite in this house and took it out. Left the pipe work in place so someone can turn it back if they want.

    We've got a downstairs cloakroom (with shower), downstairs guest room ensuite and upstairs main bathroom. House is 4/5 bedroom and has 2 adults in it. Neither of us like the en suite and can both manage the 9 steps from our bed to the main bathroom.

    Our bedroom isn't that big so we converted it into a wardrobe and love it.

    If we were well off enough to afford a cleaner it might be different, but I'm not scrubbing 4 toilets.
  • RelievedSheff
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    mi-key said:
    Boiling water taps are definitely a pointless fad to impress people with how hi tech your kitchen is.... Plus the ones I have tried don't really work that well.
    My girlfriend thought the same... until I had one installed.
    Now she uses it every single day (for cooking as well as hot drinks) and wouldn't be without it; it's quick and simple and the Quooker one we have provides actual boiling water instantly on tap.
    I also have a smaller one in my kitchenette and really missed it when it was out of action for a week, waiting three or four minutes for a kettle to boil felt like an eternity.

    How much does it cost per day to keep the water boiling all day?
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