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Strange car situation.

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  • mrcactus
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    I made the change on the 29th March just gone. I've done the wrong thing haven't I? 
  • Iceweasel
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    The DVLA are not interested in the slightest as to who actually owns a vehicle - they are only concerned with the keeper. So there was no need to tell them anything at all until the vehicle was actually about to leave the UK.
  • GDB2222
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    mrcactus said:
    I made the change on the 29th March just gone. I've done the wrong thing haven't I? 
    Afraid that’s how it looks to me. I hope you can undo it, but you should not drive the car in the meantime. There are firms like Hertz that can help keep you mobile. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • mrcactus
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    Iceweasel said:
    The DVLA are not interested in the slightest as to who actually owns a vehicle - they are only concerned with the keeper. So there was no need to tell them anything at all until the vehicle was actually about to leave the UK.
    The car needed to be in her name so she could apply for the relevant paperwork. 

    So how exactly can this car be taxed? 
  • CKhalvashi
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    edited 1 April 2023 at 5:30PM
    mrcactus said:
    Iceweasel said:
    The DVLA are not interested in the slightest as to who actually owns a vehicle - they are only concerned with the keeper. So there was no need to tell them anything at all until the vehicle was actually about to leave the UK.
    The car needed to be in her name so she could apply for the relevant paperwork. 

    So how exactly can this car be taxed? 
    Which country is the car going to? I deal with import/export of services on a daily basis and of goods quite frequently. I ask this to be able to give a concrete answer on this.

    I've applied in my own name (twice, in 2 different countries) for a registration document with just a German bill of sale in English (proof I own the car). In both cases the car was declared at the border as remaining in the country and then subject to paperwork and duties being sorted away from it at a government office. The procedure for companies (although not relevant here) is similar.

    I can't think of any country that would require a registration document in her name, unless she's planning to dodge taxes as a new resident by owning the car before. This wouldn't make sense too though as generally the period of ownership has to be more than 1 year for an exemption of this nature.

    To tax the car, you will have to go into a Post Office if you cannot do this online. You can find the opening hours of suitable PO's near you by clicking here.

    Edited to re-phrase as I thought I'd asked the first question in the last page. I hadn't directly.
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  • mrcactus
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    mrcactus said:
    Iceweasel said:
    The DVLA are not interested in the slightest as to who actually owns a vehicle - they are only concerned with the keeper. So there was no need to tell them anything at all until the vehicle was actually about to leave the UK.
    The car needed to be in her name so she could apply for the relevant paperwork. 

    So how exactly can this car be taxed? 
    Which country is the car going to? I deal with import/export of services on a daily basis and of goods quite frequently. I ask this to be able to give a concrete answer on this.

    I've applied in my own name (twice, in 2 different countries) for a registration document with just a German bill of sale in English (proof I own the car). In both cases the car was declared at the border as remaining in the country and then subject to paperwork and duties being sorted away from it at a government office. The procedure for companies (although not relevant here) is similar.

    I can't think of any country that would require a registration document in her name, unless she's planning to dodge taxes as a new resident by owning the car before. This wouldn't make sense too though as generally the period of ownership has to be more than 1 year for an exemption of this nature.

    To tax the car, you will have to go into a Post Office if you cannot do this online. You can find the opening hours of suitable PO's near you by clicking here.

    Edited to re-phrase as I thought I'd asked the first question in the last page. I hadn't directly.
    It's going to Australia. It's a sort of expensive sports car so worth doing.
  • CKhalvashi
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    mrcactus said:
    mrcactus said:
    Iceweasel said:
    The DVLA are not interested in the slightest as to who actually owns a vehicle - they are only concerned with the keeper. So there was no need to tell them anything at all until the vehicle was actually about to leave the UK.
    The car needed to be in her name so she could apply for the relevant paperwork. 

    So how exactly can this car be taxed? 
    Which country is the car going to? I deal with import/export of services on a daily basis and of goods quite frequently. I ask this to be able to give a concrete answer on this.

    I've applied in my own name (twice, in 2 different countries) for a registration document with just a German bill of sale in English (proof I own the car). In both cases the car was declared at the border as remaining in the country and then subject to paperwork and duties being sorted away from it at a government office. The procedure for companies (although not relevant here) is similar.

    I can't think of any country that would require a registration document in her name, unless she's planning to dodge taxes as a new resident by owning the car before. This wouldn't make sense too though as generally the period of ownership has to be more than 1 year for an exemption of this nature.

    To tax the car, you will have to go into a Post Office if you cannot do this online. You can find the opening hours of suitable PO's near you by clicking here.

    Edited to re-phrase as I thought I'd asked the first question in the last page. I hadn't directly.
    It's going to Australia. It's a sort of expensive sports car so worth doing.
    Australia is outside the areas I normally deal with, but as far as ABF is concerned (link here) I don't see why this additional stage would be necessary.

    In addition, registration is based on the state, however I can't see that anything other than a bill of sale (a document transferring legal ownership of the car) would be required. A V5 has nothing to do with ownership anyway.

    The type of car would be irrelevant in this case as long as it meets Australian requirements for import. Again, I wouldn't be able to comment on this however I assume your friend has done their research on that point.

    For tax you will still need to visit a Post Office. It is illegal to drive the car on a public road or otherwise park it on the same without tax so you will need to find another way to get there.
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  • mrcactus
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    From what I can gather, there's a new log book being sent to her paretn's house and the car can be taxed by using that or the registered keeper (her) could tax it herself at the post office, which obviously she can't as shes not in the country.

    Hope the log book comes soon as then I can tax it myself, then figure out everything else once it's taxed. Also cant SORN it in the mean time as needs the logbook info which I dont have yet
  • sheramber
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    I hope you are keeping off any public road until then.
  • Herzlos
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    Why are you going through all of the hassle of exporting a car to Australia? I'd initially assumed your friend was just going to drive it over to France or something.

    It's going to cost a fortune to get there and import, and unless they've got an Australian presence too it's going to cost a fortune to maintain.
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