Is it really quiet for new listings?

MobileSaver

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

Sarah1Mitty2

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

There is absolutely no way to know how strangers in a dining area run their credit card, or how many times they go out to spend money, and none of this has much connection to new listings?

lookstraightahead

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

Many do pay off their cards, many don't. Many take cash off their credit cards.
I don't disagree people are still spending. I'm just not sure what they're spending with.

Yes I do think people still spend when money is tight. 

Sarah1Mitty2

fackers_2 said:

In the large area that our search is set to. It just seems that barely anything is coming onto the market. Is this the same for you too? The only type of property I’m seeing are badly flipped types / landlords selling up and just awful plots. Ohh and almost all being relisted and reduced. 

The so called ‘Spring Rush’ isn’t happening. As a seller, I’m curious, what are you waiting for? 

Some posters on here predicted that, what are you using to track listings, PropertyLog?

MobileSaver

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

There is absolutely no way to know how strangers in a dining area run their credit card, or how many times they go out to spend money,

Of course but what is pretty much certain is that neither the Ideal Home show, the trader's stalls or the garden centre restaurants are selling anything that is essential - the point is that it's almost all discretionary WIBNIF stuff and people are still buying it however they are paying for it... many people's financial situation is nowhere near as dire as you would like it to be.

lookstraightahead

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

There is absolutely no way to know how strangers in a dining area run their credit card, or how many times they go out to spend money,

Of course but what is pretty much certain is that neither the Ideal Home show, the trader's stalls or the garden centre restaurants are selling anything that is essential - the point is that it's almost all discretionary WIBNIF stuff and people are still buying it however they are paying for it... many people's financial situation is nowhere near as dire as you would like it to be.

I don't think you would get a doctorate with your research methods tbf 🤓.

MobileSaver

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

There is absolutely no way to know how strangers in a dining area run their credit card, or how many times they go out to spend money,

Of course but what is pretty much certain is that neither the Ideal Home show, the trader's stalls or the garden centre restaurants are selling anything that is essential - the point is that it's almost all discretionary WIBNIF stuff and people are still buying it however they are paying for it... many people's financial situation is nowhere near as dire as you would like it to be.

I don't think you would get a doctorate with your research methods tbf 🤓.

I don't think you need a doctorate to work out that fully booked restaurants being indicative of "money is tight" is a rather flawed hypothesis!

lookstraightahead

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

MobileSaver said:

lookstraightahead said:

MobileSaver said:

Sarah1Mitty2 said:

EssexHebridean said:

GDB2222 said:

In previous years I’ve seen free entry to the show. Was that available this year?

 I live in London, and the only travel cost is the Underground ticket. 

Yes - through MSE for a start, but there are always masses of options for free tickets. We've been a number of times - and have never parted with any cash for a ticket! 

So looks like it could be a cheap day out, much cheaper than I thought.

Yeah, £46 for lunch for two, £20 for drinks, £18 for the train, £8.50 for parking at the station plus perhaps £20, £40 or £50 that loads of people were handing over to the traders in the mezzanine stalls - that's definitely a sign that money was tight for all those show goers!

Scarily, I was actually thinking of you yesterday Crashy. We popped over the border again to a different garden centre for lunch... just for you I made a point of counting the tables, shortly after noon all 30 tables were occupied with a mix of grandparents and yummy mummies with kids having lunch and there was still a queue at the tills... the cost of living crisis is really hitting hard in Herefordshire!

Why do you assume people actually have money to spend when they spend it? I would say quite a few were using credit. 

I'm sure most are like me and put almost everything on a credit card but also like me I'm sure many pay the full balance off every month. Do you really think loads of people who are finding money is tight are still going out and spending £30 on lunch for two?!?!

I didn't take that much interest in the mezzanine traders but from memory the ones we did stop at were in the main being paid in actual paper cash...

There is absolutely no way to know how strangers in a dining area run their credit card, or how many times they go out to spend money,

Of course but what is pretty much certain is that neither the Ideal Home show, the trader's stalls or the garden centre restaurants are selling anything that is essential - the point is that it's almost all discretionary WIBNIF stuff and people are still buying it however they are paying for it... many people's financial situation is nowhere near as dire as you would like it to be.

I don't think you would get a doctorate with your research methods tbf 🤓.

I don't think you need a doctorate to work out that fully booked restaurants being indicative of "money is tight" is a rather flawed hypothesis!

It actually tells us nothing except that people who go to the ideal home exhibition eat their dinner in a restaurant. It's a massive case of selection bias. 

GDB2222

This thread has been valuable for me, as it is the first time I’ve seen WIBNIF mentioned.

GDB2222

Incidentally, higher interest rates impact people looking to purchase homes, as their ability to borrow is significantly reduced. That’s rather different than whether they can afford lunch out.