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Buying from a website that doesn't disclose its in India

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Had the misfortune to buy a pair of shoes from a website called Joytidy-com. Took about 4 weeks to arrive and they are not fit for purpose, never mind being far too small. The address on their website is in Rotherham, but when I asked them to supply a returns label, they said that I need to return them, at my expense, to their warehouse in Bangladesh. Oh, but because it was being refurbished there would be no one there to accept the delivery. They were prepared to give me 30% back and keep the shoes. And I should be kind to them because they are a startup company, and offer jobs to people with disabilities. 
Well that's okay then! 
I am running out of puff and fight. Do I have any rights for purchases supplied from India? 
Thank you in anticipation

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  • powerful_Rogue
    powerful_Rogue Posts: 8,387 Forumite
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    edited 27 March 2023 at 5:04PM
    Had the misfortune to buy a pair of shoes from a website called Joytidy-com. Took about 4 weeks to arrive and they are not fit for purpose, never mind being far too small. The address on their website is in Rotherham, but when I asked them to supply a returns label, they said that I need to return them, at my expense, to their warehouse in Bangladesh. Oh, but because it was being refurbished there would be no one there to accept the delivery. They were prepared to give me 30% back and keep the shoes. And I should be kind to them because they are a startup company, and offer jobs to people with disabilities. 
    Well that's okay then! 
    I am running out of puff and fight. Do I have any rights for purchases supplied from India? 
    Thank you in anticipation

    The address in Rotherham is a house, so they probably just used any old address and might not be connected to it in anyway.
    Only 4 reviews on google - all one star.
    Website was set up one year ago.
    Contact number is a mobile number that was also used on another webiste but has since shut down.
    I agree with this review of the website - It's dodgy. https://wisdomganga.com/joytidy/
    If you paid by debit card, might be worth contacting your bank and asking about a chargeback.


  • Caz3121
    Caz3121 Posts: 15,840 Forumite
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    It looks like you are not alone https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/joytidy.com
    Unfortunately lots of these sites can pop up, take people's money and then disappear again
  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 15,724 Forumite
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    Why would they disclose they're in India when they aren't?
  • TadleyBaggie
    TadleyBaggie Posts: 6,655 Forumite
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    Chargeback if you paid by debit or credit card may work.

    My wife wanted to order from a site last, "wmshoes.uk", a quick check showed it to to be dodgy. No phone number, no address and site registered only 6 months ago. Nothing but 1 star reviews as well.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,654 Forumite
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    You normally have to return the item to get a chargeback.
  • sheramber
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    This would raise red flags for me

    TRANSIT, HANDLING & ORDER CUT OFF TIME FOR UK:

    • Generally, shipments are in transit for 15-25 days (Monday to Sunday).
    • Order cut off time will be 05:00 PM (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time.
    • Order handling time is 1-3 business days (Monday to Sunday)

    However 

    https://joytidy.com/policies/terms-of-service

    SECTION 18 - GOVERNING LAW

    These terms and conditions hereby shall be governed by the laws of UK

    . Any action seeking legal or equitable relief arising out of or relating to these Terms and Conditions will be brought in the courts of UK

  • hpuse
    hpuse Posts: 1,161 Forumite
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    Had the misfortune to buy a pair of shoes from a website called Joytidy-com. Took about 4 weeks to arrive and they are not fit for purpose, never mind being far too small. The address on their website is in Rotherham, but when I asked them to supply a returns label, they said that I need to return them, at my expense, to their warehouse in Bangladesh. Oh, but because it was being refurbished there would be no one there to accept the delivery. They were prepared to give me 30% back and keep the shoes. And I should be kind to them because they are a startup company, and offer jobs to people with disabilities. 
    Well that's okay then! 
    I am running out of puff and fight. Do I have any rights for purchases supplied from India? 
    Thank you in anticipation

    The address in Rotherham is a house, so they probably just used any old address and might not be connected to it in anyway.
    Only 4 reviews on google - all one star.
    Website was set up one year ago.
    Contact number is a mobile number that was also used on another webiste but has since shut down.
    I agree with this review of the website - It's dodgy. https://wisdomganga.com/joytidy/
    If you paid by debit card, might be worth contacting your bank and asking about a chargeback.



    What about T&C's any DSR specificied....Also not sure OP paid by credit or debit card ;-)

  • DullGreyGuy
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    hpuse said:
    Had the misfortune to buy a pair of shoes from a website called Joytidy-com. Took about 4 weeks to arrive and they are not fit for purpose, never mind being far too small. The address on their website is in Rotherham, but when I asked them to supply a returns label, they said that I need to return them, at my expense, to their warehouse in Bangladesh. Oh, but because it was being refurbished there would be no one there to accept the delivery. They were prepared to give me 30% back and keep the shoes. And I should be kind to them because they are a startup company, and offer jobs to people with disabilities. 
    Well that's okay then! 
    I am running out of puff and fight. Do I have any rights for purchases supplied from India? 
    Thank you in anticipation

    The address in Rotherham is a house, so they probably just used any old address and might not be connected to it in anyway.
    Only 4 reviews on google - all one star.
    Website was set up one year ago.
    Contact number is a mobile number that was also used on another webiste but has since shut down.
    I agree with this review of the website - It's dodgy. https://wisdomganga.com/joytidy/
    If you paid by debit card, might be worth contacting your bank and asking about a chargeback.



    What about T&C's any DSR specificied....Also not sure OP paid by credit or debit card ;-)

    Wouldnt make any difference, their shoes are mainly sub £20 with the most expensive being £54 and so both debit and credit cards would be looking at chargeback rather than S75. The OP would still need to return the goods before they can claim the merchant hasn't refunded the transaction... they can't keep the shoes and get a refund unless the merchant decides to offer that
  • Caz3121
    Caz3121 Posts: 15,840 Forumite
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    sheramber said:


    SECTION 18 - GOVERNING LAW

    These terms and conditions hereby shall be governed by the laws of UK


    Usually a sign of an overseas company when they don't realise there are no "laws of UK"....it should state 'England & Wales' or 'Scotland' or 'Northern Ireland' as the laws differ
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