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  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 37,455 Forumite
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    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    Do you understand the difference between turnover and assets/liabilities?
  • Undervalued
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    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    You can complain to whoever you like but it won't help you get your money. In fact, if they get fined it may even reduce your already slim chances of getting your money - even assuming you win in court.
  • screech_78
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    You are focusing your energy in the wrong places and this is only going to end worse for you.

    Why on earth are you claiming for the full cost of the works when you’ve been quoted half that to rectify the issue? You won’t get anywhere with that. 
  • powerful_Rogue
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    Curious as to how you know it's a council house. Could he not have had the right to buy, so owns it outright?
    I searched their address in google and it said the property was purchased last in 1995 and the father gardener is 1977 born so no way he could have bought the house so I researched for council houses and found the house in the list and it had a number as well. I called up council and they said they will give me a call and took the address. The operator said she can’t give details due to data protection act but the person who is going to call  me can provide as I said I’m going to sue them and want to know the legal implications as I believe this is council home and also running a business from the same address. Is it legal? That was my query.Also companies house said if I file the case I can stop them from closing down the company if I provide them with the proof about the lawsuit against the company .
    Still can't see how you worked out it was a council house. Maybe purchase a copy of the deeds from the land registry?

  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    Yes, you can complain to HMRC.

    It won't help fix your patio problem, but it's probably a less costly and futile measure than taking the trader to court.
  • Dewdrops1420
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    eskbanker said:
    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    Do you understand the difference between turnover and assets/liabilities?
    No please explain . Can they file zero micro entity accounts after doing works and getting money from consumer? They haven’t shown a single penny. 
  • Dewdrops1420
    Dewdrops1420 Posts: 124 Forumite
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    Curious as to how you know it's a council house. Could he not have had the right to buy, so owns it outright?
    I searched their address in google and it said the property was purchased last in 1995 and the father gardener is 1977 born so no way he could have bought the house so I researched for council houses and found the house in the list and it had a number as well. I called up council and they said they will give me a call and took the address. The operator said she can’t give details due to data protection act but the person who is going to call  me can provide as I said I’m going to sue them and want to know the legal implications as I believe this is council home and also running a business from the same address. Is it legal? That was my query.Also companies house said if I file the case I can stop them from closing down the company if I provide them with the proof about the lawsuit against the company .
    Still can't see how you worked out it was a council house. Maybe purchase a copy of the deeds from the land registry?

    I saw a list of council houses in my council area and their address was in it. 
  • eskbanker said:
    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    Do you understand the difference between turnover and assets/liabilities?
    No please explain . Can they file zero micro entity accounts after doing works and getting money from consumer? They haven’t shown a single penny. 
    Yes, they can. Micro accounts don't even show turnover, you have no idea how much money they are taking from customers.
    The publicly available record tells you very little about a business.

    I specifically asked my accountant to file one of my businesses in this way because I want to retain my privacy.
    It isn't false, it isn't cheating and it isn't illegal. It's a legitimate accounting method used by thousands of companies in the UK.

    Micro-entity accounts: all you need to know | unbiased.co.uk
  • Dewdrops1420
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    edited 13 August at 9:00AM
    eskbanker said:
    comeandgo said:
    Also is there any chance that I can complain about their zero accounts to HMRC by showing proof of their work from fbpage and how they are fooling by filing micro entity accounts with zero assets or liabilities? 
    No, you have nearly a year after the company year end to file accounts.  If they are late in filing companies house will be letting them know and fineing them.
    They have already filed and has kept it as zero even after taking exorbitant money from us and posting the photos of few of the works done by them. Can I complain that they are cheating HMRC by filing false accounts . How can they file as zero when they have done some work?
    Do you understand the difference between turnover and assets/liabilities?
    No please explain . Can they file zero micro entity accounts after doing works and getting money from consumer? They haven’t shown a single penny. 
    Yes, they can. Micro accounts don't even show turnover, you have no idea how much money they are taking from customers.
    The publicly available record tells you very little about a business.

    I specifically asked my accountant to file one of my businesses in this way because I want to retain my privacy.
    It isn't false, it isn't cheating and it isn't illegal. It's a legitimate accounting method used by thousands of companies in the UK.

    Micro-entity accounts: all you need to know | unbiased.co.uk
    Even if they are not paying any taxes or giving invoice after taking money from consumers ? Can they easily get over with ?
  • OP there's no point getting too side tracked on the thread about accounts and council houses :) 

    If you wanted to post the company registration number I'm sure some posters will have a nose at the info available, alternatively if you'd rather not name them here feel free to pop a PM over to me with the company registration number. 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
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