Problems with knocking on my neighbours window at all hours

bouicca21

A camera is probsbly a good idea - there might be a chance that the police will know her.

ThisIsWeird

Bobb12345 said:

ThisIsWeird said:

Bobb12345 said:

gwynlas said:

If it is affecting you it is presumably affecting other neighbours as well as the noise is external to the building. You should cobtact the police on their non emergency number as it could be a sign that your neighbour is dealing particularly as she uses abusive language. It could be that she is eventially served with an ASBO, If your neighbour welcomes her visits she should be contacting him via phone for entry rather than screeching outside.

I have phoned the police before and they did send someone out, unfortunately, when they get there, the shouting lady is never there. I imagine it's disturbing other neighbours as well, I assume it must be. The issue is the neighbour doesn't appear to have a phone and sometimes he welcomes the visits, other times not. I suspect and I might be wrong, she is a local lady of the night and he sometimes takes advantage of her 'services' in exchange for maybe her staying there for a bit. She doesn't seem to get the message when he doesn't want these 'services' so hangs around unnecessarily shouting. 

At least that's what I think, just to clarify, I don't know for sure, and don't want to get involved myself. I have logged a complaint with the council this morning along with the dates and times of the banging over the last week, so we shall see what happens. Thanks for the advice :-)

Absolutely, I'd suggest you don't want to get involved yourself. This is bizarre, off-the-scale behaviour, and the folk involved are very unlikely to be reasonable, understanding and considerate...

Also, as you say, what they get up to is of no concern or business of yours, other than that they literally disturb the peace. 

You've kept a note of when these visits occur? Cool. Have you also written down what is actually being said? This could help the police determine what's going on, and whether they need to investigate beyond simply telling the lady to 'cease and desist'. Eg, if there's anything being said that might suggest it's either an abusive or manipulative relationship, or whether it's perhaps drugs-related, then I think you'd want both these scenarios nipped.

I 100% agree. I have made a note of when they occur. What's said is basically (lady shouting Y it's X, answer the door, come on Y, it's X answer the door, come on answer the door). That's pretty much it. Where Y is the person in the house X is the name of the person banging. As I say I think it's some bizarre relationship they have. Not sure it's drug related. I will be setting a camera up if I can to see if I can record the audio for the future.  

This camera will be inside your flat, so not able to actually visually record her? If it's set up to record outside your flat, in communal or public areas, then you need to ensure you are conforming with CCTV regs.

It should be ok to make audio recordings from within your flat, as you are capturing what you suspect is a breach of either law or by-laws. You are not trying to capture what she is saying in her 'private' conversations other than what amounts to an intrusion on your peaceful enjoyment of your home - cussing, loud shouting and stuff. If you then 'happen' to catch them also saying, "Go away! I'm out of the good s*** - come back tomorrow!", then, well, it's only your duty, innit, to pass that on :-)

diystarter7

Bobb12345 said:

diystarter7 said:

Bobb12345 said:

babyblade41 said:

Has your neighbour a door bell, maybe worth buying them one to stop the window banging !!!

I think the sort of people we are dealing with here wouldn't be inclined to ring a doorbell!

Hi

Exactly as I thought and I've seen this first had - person returns home late at nnight, no key or locked out - resident of property fed up with the behaviour and regardless of "doorbell"  the person outside will bang on windows, shout, bang on the door etc.
It's the behaviour that is the problem here.

Thnaks

Exactly! The person banging on the door MUST know they are making a racket, the fact is they don't give a toss about how they are affecting other people in the locality. So yes it's definitely the behaviour and as a one-off it woudln't be so bad, the fact it's every night is what the issue is. 

Hi
Thnaks

Sadly @babyblade41 idea of a doorbell would not work in this scenario.


Sadly, at times but not always, this type of behviour is usually demonstrated by someone that has had  excess drink or similar. It could be someone with behaviour problems etc. Therefore, as another said "doorbell" is irrelevant in scenarios like this and reporting this behaviour is required if people are disturbed by this and want it to stop. However, there is often no easy soloutions

Thnnaks

silvercar

Could the resident of the other flat be the dealer? The lady could be trying to buy drugs, sometimes with money, sometimes with favours and sometimes the flat occupier isn’t interested in favours. That would explain why he sometimes lets her in and sometimes doesn’t.

cjdew

A friend had this in her flat. Same scenario, male and female. One afternoon the morning after it happened she calmly knocked on the neighbour's door and said it was disturbing her and other residents and worried if was ok? Framed calmly like that and showing concern for the other individual meant that the response although a bit shirty was understanding. The visits continued but had swifter action to answering the door, and then after a month decreased so much and then she got bored. It was later realised that the neighbour was a mild drug user and she was trying to get some from him. Once he lowered contact and eventually realised he would likely get busted by the police due to her behaviour the visits as explained stopped. Maybe try this tactic. 

Bobb12345

Charjohndew said:

A friend had this in her flat. Same scenario, male and female. One afternoon the morning after it happened she calmly knocked on the neighbour's door and said it was disturbing her and other residents and worried if was ok? Framed calmly like that and showing concern for the other individual meant that the response although a bit shirty was understanding. The visits continued but had swifter action to answering the door, and then after a month decreased so much and then she got bored. It was later realised that the neighbour was a mild drug user and she was trying to get some from him. Once he lowered contact and eventually realised he would likely get busted by the police due to her behaviour the visits as explained stopped. Maybe try this tactic. 

I may speak to the neighbour if I see him outside at some stage. That might be the best way to deal with it. I think drugs are definitely involved, but seeing the state of my neighbour, I would be very surprised if he was some sort of dealer. Maybe he loans money for others to buy drugs and then takes favours for payment. It's all a theory!

Bobb12345

bouicca21 said:

A camera is probsbly a good idea - there might be a chance that the police will know her.

I think the police will definitely know who it is. I would suspect so anyways, I will perhaps see about a camera. 

cjdew

Bobb12345 said:

Charjohndew said:

A friend had this in her flat. Same scenario, male and female. One afternoon the morning after it happened she calmly knocked on the neighbour's door and said it was disturbing her and other residents and worried if was ok? Framed calmly like that and showing concern for the other individual meant that the response although a bit shirty was understanding. The visits continued but had swifter action to answering the door, and then after a month decreased so much and then she got bored. It was later realised that the neighbour was a mild drug user and she was trying to get some from him. Once he lowered contact and eventually realised he would likely get busted by the police due to her behaviour the visits as explained stopped. Maybe try this tactic. 

I may speak to the neighbour if I see him outside at some stage. That might be the best way to deal with it. I think drugs are definitely involved, but seeing the state of my neighbour, I would be very surprised if he was some sort of dealer. Maybe he loans money for others to buy drugs and then takes favours for payment. It's all a theory!

You may be surprised, people often think of drug users in full blown heroin state. I once worked in london with bankers, many had "habits" and were definitely not what you thought.

This friends neighbour had a weed habit and he worked full time in insurance, didnt "look" like what you would think either. 

diystarter7

silvercar said:

Could the resident of the other flat be the dealer? The lady could be trying to buy drugs, sometimes with money, sometimes with favours and sometimes the flat occupier isn’t interested in favours. That would explain why he sometimes lets her in and sometimes doesn’t.

Hi

I doubt that very much as during my work times and on ice days having lunch i my car while waitig to go to the next visit, dealers use 'burner' phones and meet their customers in the road, quick handshake does the trick . Dealers do not want to attract attention and IMO it is as I said, some drunk or spoilt adult living with parents and or behavioural problems

Not sayig it does not happen but if that was the case, the cops would have bee within a few weeks of this happening as locals often know who is a dealer. I can often tell who is a dealer by looking and when they walk up and down a road with an old mobile i their hand or customer seems to be waiting for someone on the road and this is confirmed when a dealer walks up to them, or their car - dealer often is on foot and aprks car away they often use younger people on bikes, The dealers often hide their goods under  stoe etc so if cops stop them they ofte have nothing on them