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UKPC - PCN for parking on double yellow lines

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 29 November 2023 at 5:56PM
    @LekkerManLekker - you know the score!
      
    :D

    But!  What to do right now, is this please... to change all this by being heard by a Government Committee, if you could reply to this Inquiry that would be great.

    ...only TWO WEEKS left to do this VERY relevant Inquiry linked & discussed here:

    Really relevant because the reason that the county court is clogged up is because up to a THIRD of all small claims are private parking. 
    The delays by the CNBC are directly caused by half a million parking claims p.a.

    It MUST stop. You can help.

    Your claim paperwork and any other relevant evidence will be great evidence of the meritless 'cause of action' constantly bombarding the courts and wasting time then discontinuing.

    Show the Ministers the very basic claim Particulars. Your replies are about showing how parking firms abuse the court service.

    Please tell the Ministers on this Committee that there needs to be a bespoke parking Alternative Dispute Resolution 'court buffer' at pre-action stage, and the use of the "debt claims" pre-action protocol is totally improper.  Asking for people's income on a 'debtor' reply form is an insult and utterly inappropriate.

    And why should parking cases have SIX YEARS to bring to court? They should have two years max, allowing 12/18 months for PCN, appeal, ADR, then impasse.

    Then they should not be allowed to just sit on DVLA keeper data for years and gain 8% interest as a reward for sitting on their hands.

    Also tell the Committee to please contact the DLUHC private parking Code of Practice team who would really appreciate a new PAP for Parking Claims and the 6 year claim Limitation period being at least halved for parking cases.  This would really support regulators in 2024 as the private parking regulation finally happens.

    I think if enough people say the above sort of stuff, this Justice Committee will go and talk to the DLUHC guys I'm dealing with, and hopefully recommend a new pre-action protocol to stop the vast majority of cases even going to a claim.

    Please please do the Inquiry with your claim form and views.  Not much time left.  Lots of responses will help change the way that PPCs will be allowed to use the court.


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  • @LekkerManLekker - you know the score!
      
    :D

    But!  What to do right now, is this please... to change all this by being heard by a Government Committee, if you could reply to this Inquiry that would be great.

    ...only TWO WEEKS left to do this VERY relevant Inquiry linked & discussed here:

    Really relevant because the reason that the county court is clogged up is because up to a THIRD of all small claims are private parking. 
    The delays by the CNBC are directly caused by half a million parking claims p.a.

    It MUST stop. You can help.

    Your claim paperwork and any other relevant evidence will be great evidence of the meritless 'cause of action' constantly bombarding the courts and wasting time then discontinuing.

    Show the Ministers the very basic claim Particulars. Your replies are about showing how parking firms abuse the court service.

    Please tell the Ministers on this Committee that there needs to be a bespoke parking Alternative Dispute Resolution 'court buffer' at pre-action stage, and the use of the "debt claims" pre-action protocol is totally improper.  Asking for people's income on a 'debtor' reply form is an insult and utterly inappropriate.

    And why should parking cases have SIX YEARS to bring to court? They should have two years max, allowing 12/18 months for PCN, appeal, ADR, then impasse.

    Then they should not be allowed to just sit on DVLA keeper data for years and gain 8% interest as a reward for sitting on their hands.

    Also tell the Committee to please contact the DLUHC private parking Code of Practice team who would really appreciate a new PAP for Parking Claims and the 6 year claim Limitation period being at least halved for parking cases.  This would really support regulators in 2024 as the private parking regulation finally happens.

    I think if enough people say the above sort of stuff, this Justice Committee will go and talk to the DLUHC guys I'm dealing with, and hopefully recommend a new pre-action protocol to stop the vast majority of cases even going to a claim.

    Please please do the Inquiry with your claim form and views.  Not much time left.  Lots of responses will help change the way that PPCs will be allowed to use the court.


    Ah right, will have a look Friday when I have some free time. Thanks
  • Coupon-mad
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    Please do. Your case is full of delays.

    Great example of a waste of time PPC claim.
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  • LekkerManLekker
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    edited 5 December 2023 at 2:41PM
    @Coupon-mad @Umkomaas @KeithP

    Sorry for the direct tags, but I am shaking with excitement right now :)

    Do I understand that my local courts have basically told UKPCL to get lost and they won'r entertain the claim (unless UKPCL want to do some more admin and submit more evidence, terms of contract, etc) within 7 days?






  • 1505grandad
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    edited 5 December 2023 at 3:18PM
    Certainly looks like to to me  (will wait for the experts opinion)  -  well done.

    Even quotes the forum wording  -  looks like Judges are being coached by C-m.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 5 December 2023 at 8:47PM
    @Coupon-mad @Umkomaas @KeithP

    Sorry for the direct tags, but I am shaking with excitement right now :)

    Do I understand that my local courts have basically told UKPCL to get lost and they won't entertain the claim (unless UKPCL want to do some more admin and submit more evidence, terms of contract, etc) within 7 days?








    Yay! That's likely the end of it!

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

    Could you show an image version that reveals the name of the Claimants (UKPC)...

    ...as we'd like to add that and the York one to the others we've had just like it, to show other Judges what to do!


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  • Le_Kirk
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    Could you show an image version that reveals the name of the Claimants (UKPC)...

    ...as we'd like to add that and the York one to the others we've had just like it, to show other Judges what to do!
    On it, when I see the unredacted (ish) version.
  • @Coupon-mad @Umkomaas @KeithP

    Sorry for the direct tags, but I am shaking with excitement right now :)

    Do I understand that my local courts have basically told UKPCL to get lost and they won't entertain the claim (unless UKPCL want to do some more admin and submit more evidence, terms of contract, etc) within 7 days?








    Yay! That's likely the end of it!

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

    Could you show an image version that reveals the name of the Claimants (UKPC)...

    ...as we'd like to add that and the York one to the others we've had just like it, to show other Judges what to do!


    Sent to Le_Kirk.  I have asked them to just double check before posting that all identifying info has been redacted, just in case I missed something.
  • As a side not, received nothing since this Judgement from DCBLegal or the courts.  I am holding thumbs that DCBLegal chose to not challenge the Judgement by re-submitting the claim with more details and evidence withing 7 days of the letter.

    Begs the question, would DCBLegal send discontinue letter if the courts struck it off the roll, and they don't resubmit?
  • Umkomaas
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    I am holding thumbs that DCBLegal chose to not challenge the Judgement
    A definite SA term ('cross fingers' here)!

    'Struck out' is quite different to 'stayed' and you should hear no more on this one. 

    Baie geluk!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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