Advice MIL died without leaving a will

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Spendless said:

paul2louise said:

Sea_Shell said:

Any updates @paul2louise ?

Any joy?

he has just emailed his sis and told her that he wants this sorting. I phoned the probate service yesterday and they explained a few things. I think he is just worried she will withdraw all the money and refuse to give him any of it. 

I'm sure someone will clarify but I believe he'd be able to take it to court if that happened. 

Indeed, possible criminal proceedings as well as civil...

Keep_pedalling

paul2louise said:

His sis has just replied. I seriously think she is "on something". She told him he has stolen things from his mums loft from her old house before she moved to her retirement bungalow. She accused him of all sorts of stuff. She said Rot in Hell and apparently we are uninvited to her wedding in the summer. He is calming down a bit but i feel really sickened. I will get him to ring the probate people in the morning. They were lovely with me when rang yesterday. I need him to hear what they told me. 

I don’t think they can be of much more help they dond get involved in family disputes once probate has been granted. In you husband shoes I would simple reply to that message saying that he feels sorry she feels that way but he expects to receive his share of the inheritance and a full set of accounts within 14 days and that if she fails to do so he will be taking legal action to force her to do so.

The relationship is already at rock bottom and is not likely to improve so the time for trying to sort this amicably has long gone. If she does not deliver then he must follow this through and speak to a solicitor.

Mojisola

paul2louise said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yes i have to admit that is a definite advantage. I am just in shock with how unhinged she appears to be.

Sounds like a normal reaction to being found out and realising she's in legal trouble.

Spendless

paul2louise said:

His sis has just replied. I seriously think she is "on something". She told him he has stolen things from his mums loft from her old house before she moved to her retirement bungalow. She accused him of all sorts of stuff. She said Rot in Hell and apparently we are uninvited to her wedding in the summer. He is calming down a bit but i feel really sickened. I will get him to ring the probate people in the morning. They were lovely with me when rang yesterday. I need him to hear what they told me. 

Sounds like projection again I'm afraid. I think your husband may have to go down a legal route about this. Let's see if she sends him the money.  

paul2louise

Thanks for replying so quickly. I think he will sleep on it tonight and I will talk to him tomorrow about it. 

uknick

paul2louise said:

Sea_Shell said:

Any updates @paul2louise ?

Any joy?

he has just emailed his sis and told her that he wants this sorting. I phoned the probate service yesterday and they explained a few things. I think he is just worried she will withdraw all the money and refuse to give him any of it. 

As the sister sent the forms (I assume) to the probate office what did they discuss with you?  Every time I've contacted them about a probate involving a will of which I'm a beneficiary they won't talk to me as I never applied for the probate.  They won't even tell me what stage it's reached.

Spendless

uknick said:

paul2louise said:

Sea_Shell said:

Any updates @paul2louise ?

Any joy?

he has just emailed his sis and told her that he wants this sorting. I phoned the probate service yesterday and they explained a few things. I think he is just worried she will withdraw all the money and refuse to give him any of it. 

As the sister sent the forms (I assume) to the probate office what did they discuss with you?  Every time I've contacted them about a probate involving a will of which I'm a beneficiary they won't talk to me as I never applied for the probate.  They won't even tell me what stage it's reached.

Just a guess but perhaps just gave a generic overview of what happens. Probate was granted in this case in October 2020!  

paul2louise

Spendless said:

uknick said:

paul2louise said:

Sea_Shell said:

Any updates @paul2louise ?

Any joy?

he has just emailed his sis and told her that he wants this sorting. I phoned the probate service yesterday and they explained a few things. I think he is just worried she will withdraw all the money and refuse to give him any of it. 

As the sister sent the forms (I assume) to the probate office what did they discuss with you?  Every time I've contacted them about a probate involving a will of which I'm a beneficiary they won't talk to me as I never applied for the probate.  They won't even tell me what stage it's reached.

Just a guess but perhaps just gave a generic overview of what happens. Probate was granted in this case in October 2020!  

Yes just that. Like what my OH will need to do if he wants to take control. Up until a couple of weeks ago he thought it was all in hand. But now the situation has changed massively and the things she is accusing my husband of it's just plain ridiculous. She said you visited mum every week and filled your car with all her valuables. She is talking about 2018 when my husband used to visit her at her old house and help her clear the loft. He would take old stuff to the tip. She eventually moved to a retirement complex near us so we could be close by and help her. His sis took all the remaining furniture for her kids who were setting up home Inc pine bedroom furniture that was my brother's. That's in her storage unit. She accused him of stealing from the fridge 🤣. I thought we could sort this out but she is just crazy. So sorry that it is his sister. I don't think this can ever be something he will forgive. 

poppystar

I assume the accountant has not got back to you or is a red herring in all this.

As others have said, her reaction is likely because she has been backed into a corner and knows she is in the wrong. She has got away with things for over two years and probably thought your OH was just going to roll over and let her get the lion’s share of the money. 

I sincerely hope the money hasn’t already been spent or passed to her children. Does she own her own house or is she in a position to be able to pay up if you have to go the legal route? Winning a case would be one thing, getting money back or having costs paid is another.

We’re all behind you here and hoping for a good outcome! 

paul2louise

poppystar said:

I assume the accountant has not got back to you or is a red herring in all this.

As others have said, her reaction is likely because she has been backed into a corner and knows she is in the wrong. She has got away with things for over two years and probably thought your OH was just going to roll over and let her get the lion’s share of the money. 

I sincerely hope the money hasn’t already been spent or passed to her children. Does she own her own house or is she in a position to be able to pay up if you have to go the legal route? Winning a case would be one thing, getting money back or having costs paid is another.

We’re all behind you here and hoping for a good outcome! 

The accountant exists and replied to my OH and said she would pass this on to the sis. My OH decided to contact sis and state the facts of the law etc and that equal split. That's when he got the reply this afternoon with the poison she was spouting. She has money although she always pleads poverty since I have known her. I think my OH has got his practical head on now and isn't upset anymore with the stuff she is saying. I was nervous saying to him I thought she was on something but he said she takes pills and drinks so isn't surprised. I don't think he has been close to her for a long time but I feel so sorry when you destroy your relationship with family. I lost my brother nearly 18 years ago when he was only 30. I would give anything to have him still alive. My mum still feels his loss every day. He would have been 48 last weekend.