general android mobile phone battery question

james_smitha

High 5 All,

I'm aware of mobile phones as a non user.

I'm challenged to find any android phones with user replaceable batteries. Huawei for example saty oh....it is far to dangerous for mear end users to change a mobile phone battery on their own. I find this trully strange, my cordless phone every couple of years needs new batteries, I do that without any sort of injury. Same with  my my Sony TV here, every few weeks the remote needs new batteries, I do not go to a sony dealer and buy a new remote.

The phone just needs to sit on a table to make and receive calls and SMS messages in a clear understandable way.

Whatever next, my inkjet printer runs out of ink, Oh...I better buy a new printer.

Many thanks

EssexExile

Google it! https://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-phones-removable-battery-697520/

k_man

For most users, replaceable batteries is not a requirement.
Android mobiles have a working life of 3 to 5 years before they stop being updated with security updates, so become a potential security risk.
Mobile batteries, nearly always last at least that long, albeit they don't hold as much charge.

Also be aware, that most smart mobiles only last a few days before needing charging again. 

If this only needs to be used for calls and SMS, does it need to be an Android mobile, of would a non smart phone suffice?

Ayr_Rage

As the article says, they are are a dying breed and you need to consider whether a replacement battery will actually be available when the original battery dies along with the cost.

k_man

Ayr_Rage said:

As the article says, they are are a dying breed and you need to consider whether a replacement battery will actually be available when the original battery dies along with the cost.

Indeed. The main use case for removable batteries was for outdoor activities away from mains power.
The availability of powerbanks has made this much less of a requirement.

Neil_Jones

james_smitha said:

High 5 All,

I'm aware of mobile phones as a non user.

I'm challenged to find any android phones with user replaceable batteries. Huawei for example saty oh....it is far to dangerous for mear end users to change a mobile phone battery on their own. I find this trully strange, my cordless phone every couple of years needs new batteries, I do that without any sort of injury. Same with  my my Sony TV here, every few weeks the remote needs new batteries, I do not go to a sony dealer and buy a new remote.

The phone just needs to sit on a table to make and receive calls and SMS messages in a clear understandable way.

Whatever next, my inkjet printer runs out of ink, Oh...I better buy a new printer.

Many thanks

If you buy a branded printer and genuine ink it will be cheaper to buy a new printer.  Its when the manufacturer/manufacturer stops supplying ink in any form you need to worry.

But anyway..."danger" has nothing to do with it.  Its a design feature.  And if you really want to you probably can replace the battery, if you take the phone apart.

BUFF

Ayr_Rage said:

As the article says, they are are a dying breed 

possibly not https://www.gsmarena.com/new_eu_legislation_can_bring_back_userreplaceable_batteries-news-56935.php

james_smitha

Many thanks every one

EssexExile a good read, I've messaged Nokia to ask if there are any others.

K_man you ask me about non-android, I'm open minded but trying to avoid Apple that are expensive

Buff I'm vaguely aware that the eu is not happy about this situation so will certainly have a propper read

k_man

james_smitha said:

Many thanks every one

EssexExile a good read, I've messaged Nokia to ask if there are any others.

K_man you ask me about non-android, I'm open minded but trying to avoid Apple that are expensive

Buff I'm vaguely aware that the eu is not happy about this situation so will certainly have a propper read

I meant non-smart, rather than non-android, if it only need to handle SMS and calls.

And can you confirm why a replaceable battery is a requirement? There may be other options.

400ixl

Why do you need a user replaceable battery in your mobile phone? Is there something specific you need it for, or is it just a legacy understanding.

They stopped doing these in most cases as it makes it harder to manufacture phones to a tolerance high enough for them to be waterproof rated. Charged properly (not left on charge overnight, taken off charge at 80%) the batteries last for the lifetime of the phone these days.

Just because your in-home phone and TV remote uses 20+ year old battery technology and needs replacing every 2 years doesn't mean the same applies to a mobile phone.

Even phones with non user replaced batteries can have the batteries replaced by mobile repair shops if it absolutely comes to that.

It is pretty much one of the lowest considerations in choosing a phone these days.

james_smitha

k_man said:

james_smitha said:

Many thanks every one

EssexExile a good read, I've messaged Nokia to ask if there are any others.

K_man you ask me about non-android, I'm open minded but trying to avoid Apple that are expensive

Buff I'm vaguely aware that the eu is not happy about this situation so will certainly have a propper read

I meant non-smart, rather than non-android, if it only need to handle SMS and calls.

And can you confirm why a replaceable battery is a requirement? There may be other options.
Well, why should I pay some scalper what they think they can get away with to replace a mobile phone battery? What other options do you have in mind? I'm becoming aware of Feature phones that are perfectly good for what I want

k_man said:

james_smitha said:

Many thanks every one

EssexExile a good read, I've messaged Nokia to ask if there are any others.

K_man you ask me about non-android, I'm open minded but trying to avoid Apple that are expensive

Buff I'm vaguely aware that the eu is not happy about this situation so will certainly have a propper read

I meant non-smart, rather than non-android, if it only need to handle SMS and calls.

And can you confirm why a replaceable battery is a requirement? There may be other options.

Well, why should I pay some scalper what they think they can get away with to replace a mobile phone battery? What other options do you have in mind? I'm becoming aware of Feature phones that are perfectly good for what I want