Is stopping at red lights now optional?

user1977

diystarter7 said:

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


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Thank you but don't forget that in England you have to stop at the red lights 

You English and your wacky laws! I'll bear it in mind next time I'm visiting.

diystarter7

user1977 said:

diystarter7 said:

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


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Thank you but don't forget that in England you have to stop at the red lights 

You English and your wacky laws! I'll bear it in mind next time I'm visiting.

Pardon?

No, I'm not English but a British Citizen.

When drivinng in England, I've always stopped at red lights as this is not optional to a law abiding citizen like m

As per my previous posts, when in the USA, where permitted, I will and do take right turns when safe to so.

Red light rules are not "optional" but mandatory where I live

Norman_Castle

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


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To avoid motoring mayhem can I clarify, the thread title is a rhetorical question as demonstrated by the obviousness of the answer and the question mark at the end.

Can I please advise everybody in the world the thread title does not indicate or suggest anyone should use it as advice or instruction on how to navigate traffic light controlled junctions. If anyone still finds the title confusing can I suggest they consult a suitably qualified person for further instruction before operating a vehicle on public highways.

Please accept my apologies for any confusion my thread title may have caused.

Thanks.

EssexHebridean

Norman_Castle said:

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


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To avoid motoring mayhem can I clarify, the thread title is a rhetorical question as demonstrated by the obviousness of the answer and the question mark at the end.

Can I please advise everybody in the world the thread title does not indicate or suggest anyone should use it as advice or instruction on how to navigate traffic light controlled junctions. If anyone still finds the title confusing can I suggest they consult a suitably qualified person for further instruction before operating a vehicle on public highways.

Please accept my apologies for any confusion my thread title may have caused.

Thanks.

You quite honestly have no reason to apologise in the slightest - it was obvious to everyone that your thread title came with a healthy dose of irony.

diystarter7

Norman_Castle said:

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


😉

To avoid motoring mayhem can I clarify, the thread title is a rhetorical question as demonstrated by the obviousness of the answer and the question mark at the end.

Can I please advise everybody in the world the thread title does not indicate or suggest anyone should use it as advice or instruction on how to navigate traffic light controlled junctions. If anyone still finds the title confusing can I suggest they consult a suitably qualified person for further instruction before operating a vehicle on public highways.

Please accept my apologies for any confusion my thread title may have caused.

Thanks.

Hi mate

Why not change the title as I recommended soon after you posted this thread??

Does anyone else feel that we should be considering the USA right turn at red lights when allowed in England?

Rules are changed every so often, so it is worth considering just like the USA, allowing it at certain lights where it is deemed safe to do so and help traffic flows.

EssexHebridean

Oh come on diy - do give it a rest, this is bordering on harassment of another forum member now considering that you are literally the ONLY one who apparently failed to understand the nature of a rhetorical question. 

Stubod

...from my experience it also appears that speed limits are also optional??

littleboo

Stubod said:

...from my experience it also appears that speed limits are also optional??

For the easily confused, the above post does not mean that speed limits are optional.

Sea_Shell

diystarter7 said:

Norman_Castle said:

Sea_Shell said:

Optional red lights?   

Thanks for the heads up OP.


😉

To avoid motoring mayhem can I clarify, the thread title is a rhetorical question as demonstrated by the obviousness of the answer and the question mark at the end.

Can I please advise everybody in the world the thread title does not indicate or suggest anyone should use it as advice or instruction on how to navigate traffic light controlled junctions. If anyone still finds the title confusing can I suggest they consult a suitably qualified person for further instruction before operating a vehicle on public highways.

Please accept my apologies for any confusion my thread title may have caused.

Thanks.

Hi mate

Why not change the title as I recommended soon after you posted this thread??

Does anyone else feel that we should be considering the USA right turn at red lights when allowed in England?

Rules are changed every so often, so it is worth considering just like the USA, allowing it at certain lights where it is deemed safe to do so and help traffic flows.

Here, we tend to have directional green filter arrows on traffic lights that allow us to turn, when safe, whilst the straight on maybe still on red.   

I think they work well, and so I can't see any need to change to a "turn on red" system.  

MattMattMattUK

Driving standards in the UK seemed to deteriorate significantly when people were allowed out again post lockdown, more people going through red lights, forcing their way out at junctions, just driving like general idiots etc. Personally I am in favour of punitive measures against bad drivers, average speed cameras on all motorways and dual carriageways, red light cameras on all red lights, box junction cameras on all box junctions, mandatory one year ban for using a handheld mobile phone whilst driving, lifetime ban for drink driving over a certain threshold, much harsher punishments for anyone caught breaking the rules, automatic ban for anyone going over twelve points with no "hardship" exceptions, if someone is banned from driving three times then they should be banned for life etc.

Unfortunately too many people have demonstrated that they are unfit to be on the roads, they have had the carrot (the privilege of driving) and failed, so now it is time for the stick, strict enforcement of rules and harsh punishments for those breaking them.