Looking for a Torque Convertor Auto - motability car

MouldyOldDough

It seems that TC gearboxes are falling out of fashion ?

Suzuki no longer use them (I've had Suzukis for 15 years)

What manufacturers still do ?

Kia ?

Renault - Scenic 1.3 TCE Auto ?

Citroen C3 - I recall Citroens from the past - comfortable but reliability and RUST problems

Hyundai (which models)

And the DCT and DSG boxes are no good either

As for CVT - Words fail me

macman

What's the issue with DSG? There have been some problems with certain VAG ones, but I'm not aware of any wider issues with the design?

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macman said:

What's the issue with DSG? There have been some problems with certain VAG ones, but I'm not aware of any wider issues with the design?

Depends on what you want it for.  If you spend 90% of your time in stop/start sub 5mph traffic, then you need a torque converter. DSGs are supposed to be designed for this, but as they are slipping a wet clutch every time you start off it is pretty obvious they are going to wear out.

If you don't do this, or tow a lot then they are fine, and supposedly superior to a torque converter box (although I can't see any reason why they should be, I can think of reasons why they would be inferior, like if you need a down change when it has queued up another up change, but I doubt if I'd notice as long as the car keeps going along)

daveyjp

And nothing wrong with CVT, unless taxi drivers with 300,000 mile Toyota hybrids and Oz Subaru owners with 500,000km on the clock are all wrong.

Not all DSGs are wet clutch.  The issue with DSG is there are far too many which have failed prematurely (including my second) and 20 years since introduction there are still problems.

Bigwheels1111

Peugeot do an EAT8 Speed that is very smooth.
I have the 6 speed and love it.

shinytop

My 2016 Mazda 3 has a TC gearbox and was actually a motability car before I got it.  No idea if new ones still do. 

SiliconChip

shinytop said:

My 2016 Mazda 3 has a TC gearbox and was actually a motability car before I got it.  No idea if new ones still do. 

Mazda might well be a good shout if they still do TC autos as they have stuck with larger normally aspirated engines on many of their vehicles rather than smaller turbocharged ones, and these are better suited to the TC format.

MouldyOldDough

SiliconChip said:

shinytop said:

My 2016 Mazda 3 has a TC gearbox and was actually a motability car before I got it.  No idea if new ones still do. 

Mazda might well be a good shout if they still do TC autos as they have stuck with larger normally aspirated engines on many of their vehicles rather than smaller turbocharged ones, and these are better suited to the TC format.

Thanks - my present 2017 Suzuki 1 litre is TC (6 speed) and is instant changing and extremely smooth - but I know that its not going to last forever - and since I am now entitled to a motabilty car - I just wondered what my options were.

I have driven a CVT Honda and hated it

Similar I drove a DSG polo and didnt like that either

daydotz

the renault is a dct with the 1.3 tce 

lemondrops69

BMW and JLR vehicles will have torque converter auto gearboxes

MouldyOldDough

lemondrops69 said:

BMW and JLR vehicles will have torque converter auto gearboxes

But they are not motability compatible