Amazon Direct, Section 75

born_again

PRDMKT said:

born_again said:

If you want real protection buy direct from Apple. Avoiding any protentional issues.

Why exactly are you citing S75 & exactly what are you worried about.

Amazon is £56 cheaper than apple direct. I am not worried rather skeptical and like to have the protection just in case.

Thanks for your response but it doesn't really answer my question 

What what do you think S75 gives you, compared to say chargebacks?

S75 is not a cover all insurance policy.

For £56 I would go to a Apple store & buy one in person, for the fact you can walk away from a store with one. Sometimes saving a few quid is not always worth when things go wrong.

[Deleted User]

DullGreyGuy said:

PRDMKT said:

HillStreetBlues said:

DullGreyGuy said:

There isnt a grey area with Marketplace purchases, its straightforward that you have a middleman in the equation and so S75 protection.

I know it's a typo (should be no) but does change the meaning for anyone reading.

But this isn't a marketplace purchase, it's direct from Amazon, so presumably the s75 applies?

Assuming its from Amazon UK... if it was Amazon US, Amazon EU etc then technically you'd have the same problem though if a bank spotted it may be more 50/50

S75 however just replicates your rights to your bank... useful for overseas transactions where dealing with a foreign legal system is difficult or if a company goes bust or to ground but not sure what significant benefit you'd get with it -v- dealing with a large multinational like Amazon. S75 doesnt give you any additional rights.

S75 would still apply to transactions on the sister Amazon websites like Amazon US. 

DullGreyGuy

Deleted_User said:

DullGreyGuy said:

PRDMKT said:

HillStreetBlues said:

DullGreyGuy said:

There isnt a grey area with Marketplace purchases, its straightforward that you have a middleman in the equation and so S75 protection.

I know it's a typo (should be no) but does change the meaning for anyone reading.

But this isn't a marketplace purchase, it's direct from Amazon, so presumably the s75 applies?

Assuming its from Amazon UK... if it was Amazon US, Amazon EU etc then technically you'd have the same problem though if a bank spotted it may be more 50/50

S75 however just replicates your rights to your bank... useful for overseas transactions where dealing with a foreign legal system is difficult or if a company goes bust or to ground but not sure what significant benefit you'd get with it -v- dealing with a large multinational like Amazon. S75 doesnt give you any additional rights.

S75 would still apply to transactions on the sister Amazon websites like Amazon US. 

Not sister websites... buying on Amazon.co.uk but the merchant being Amazon US eg https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSLE-Cooking-Utensils-stainless-Silver/dp/B0002F7O9S/ 



You would technically be paying the UK entity but the supplier would be the US entity and whilst they are part of the same Group they are not the same entity and so technically would mean an extra entity is involved than the 3 required by S75

PRDMKT

born_again said:

PRDMKT said:

born_again said:

If you want real protection buy direct from Apple. Avoiding any protentional issues.

Why exactly are you citing S75 & exactly what are you worried about.

Amazon is £56 cheaper than apple direct. I am not worried rather skeptical and like to have the protection just in case.

Thanks for your response but it doesn't really answer my question 

What what do you think S75 gives you, compared to say chargebacks?

S75 is not a cover all insurance policy.

For £56 I would go to a Apple store & buy one in person, for the fact you can walk away from a store with one. Sometimes saving a few quid is not always worth when things go wrong.

I like to have a nuclear option always and knowing that the bank is ultimately joint liable is certainly a calming factor.

DullGreyGuy

PRDMKT said:

born_again said:

PRDMKT said:

born_again said:

If you want real protection buy direct from Apple. Avoiding any protentional issues.

Why exactly are you citing S75 & exactly what are you worried about.

Amazon is £56 cheaper than apple direct. I am not worried rather skeptical and like to have the protection just in case.

Thanks for your response but it doesn't really answer my question 

What what do you think S75 gives you, compared to say chargebacks?

S75 is not a cover all insurance policy.

For £56 I would go to a Apple store & buy one in person, for the fact you can walk away from a store with one. Sometimes saving a few quid is not always worth when things go wrong.

I like to have a nuclear option always and knowing that the bank is ultimately joint liable is certainly a calming factor.

How's it a nuclear option? Banks pay the money from their own pocket and defend claims fairly robustly

HillStreetBlues

DullGreyGuy said:

You would technically be paying the UK entity but the supplier would be the US entity and whilst they are part of the same Group they are not the same entity and so technically would mean an extra entity is involved than the 3 required by S75

It does depend on what happens when you check out








In this case you would get S75 protection as Amazon Export Sales LLC  is who takes payment, (that name will appear on the CC)  and is the supplier.

DullGreyGuy

HillStreetBlues said:

DullGreyGuy said:

You would technically be paying the UK entity but the supplier would be the US entity and whilst they are part of the same Group they are not the same entity and so technically would mean an extra entity is involved than the 3 required by S75

It does depend on what happens when you check out








In this case you would get S75 protection as Amazon Export Sales LLC  is who takes payment, (that name will appear on the CC)  and is the supplier.

Not paying £100 for a set of bowls to find out but in previous transactions with Amazon.co.uk the payment has been to Amazon UK when the seller has been Amazon EU (can't recall buying from Amazon US)

HillStreetBlues

DullGreyGuy said:

Not paying £100 for a set of bowls to find out

I agree with that

lr1277

Are you sure it is supplied by Amazon?

I just went onto Amazon.co.uk and in the search box typed Appie iphone 14 pro max 1tb

Some results came back. I chose one of the phones.

Whilst the pages doesn't specifically say supplied by Amazon, it does have a hyperlink titled: "Visit the apple store".

Also the price is exactly the same as if you went straignt to the UK apple store.

My guess is that the UK apple store are advertising on Amazon. But I could be wrong.

DullGreyGuy

lr1277 said:

Whilst the pages doesn't specifically say supplied by Amazon, it does have a hyperlink titled: "Visit the apple store".

Also the price is exactly the same as if you went straignt to the UK apple store.

My guess is that the UK apple store are advertising on Amazon. But I could be wrong.

It shows as out of stock on the first link, hence no supplier
If you go to the second link, which is cheaper, it shows the supplier is Amazon

The "Apple Store" is Amazon's Apple Store. If you search for any big brand on Amazon you will get a link to the XXX Store under the item name; if its a smaller brand it simply has brand:XXX instead