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Court defence for 5yr old UKPC/DCBL left site PCN

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 December 2023 at 2:11AM
    No reason to wait.

    I don't think this sentence adds anything useful:

    " It is not a legitimate reason to pursue a charge out of proportion with any loss or damages the true landowner could pursue."
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  • KeithP
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    Not sure if someone is still keeping count, but I just received a N279 Notice of Discontinuance form by email from DCB Legal saying that UKPC instructed them to drop the claim.
    Well done,

    Yes, @Umkomaas is still keeping a tally.
  • Not sure if someone is still keeping count, but I just received a N279 Notice of Discontinuance form by email from DCB Legal saying that UKPC instructed them to drop the claim.

    They sent it a couple of days after the court issued letters confirming the date of the hearing, so I'm guessing DCB Legal thought this wasn't worth their £27 trial fee. Surely claimants repeatedly dropping claims like these should be charged a fee anyway, considering the waste of court (and defendant) time...

    Many thanks to @Coupon-mad and this forum for helping me navigate this legal minefield!
    Well done you

    I doubt the £27 matters to them, they already waste money with these rubbish UKPC claims

    Their business model is to scare you with their rubbish hoping you are a mug
    Infact they are scared stiff they will get a court spanking

    Why else would they keep on their down on the chicken out farm discontinuation

    The moral of the DCBL story is to play the game with them, let them waste money and time
    So they discontinued on a UKPC RUBBISH CLAIM "DRIVER LEFT SITE"

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 December 2023 at 2:18AM
    Not sure if someone is still keeping count, but I just received a N279 Notice of Discontinuance form by email from DCB Legal saying that UKPC instructed them to drop the claim.

    They sent it a couple of days after the court issued letters confirming the date of the hearing, so I'm guessing DCB Legal thought this wasn't worth their £27 trial fee. Surely claimants repeatedly dropping claims like these should be charged a fee anyway, considering the waste of court (and defendant) time...

    Many thanks to @Coupon-mad and this forum for helping me navigate this legal minefield!

    Yay that's a win!

    Well done. Calling @Umkomaas

    And have you seen/done this Inquiry which closes in a week?  A favour PLEASE if you want this litigation incentivised model to be stopped:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/102/justice-committee/news/198166/new-inquiry-justice-committee-launches-new-inquiry-on-the-work-of-the-county-court-amid-capacity-and-resource-concerns/

    I've been posting a lot about it on threads to encourage victims to tell the Justice Committee that consumers need a bespoke 'parking pre-action protocol' designed to keep cases out of court.  

    The 'debt claims pre-action protocol' is not fit for purpose for these cases; it intrusively asks victims to tell some random thug/rogue ex-clampers all about their household, assumes there is a 'debt' owed under a credit agreement (which there isn't) and the debt claims procedure doesn't match the DLUHC's incoming Code of Practice.

    Please do it this weekend!

    It closes next Friday. They extended the deadline by a week:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7972/work-of-the-county-court/

    This inquiry is currently accepting evidence

    The committee wants to hear your views. We welcome submissions from anyone with answers to the questions in the call for evidence. You can submit evidence until Friday 22 December 2023.



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  • Umkomaas
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    Yay that's a win!

    Well done. Calling @Umkomaas
    @Coupon-mad - ahead of the game on this one. Posted on the disco thread yesterday @ 3:46pm. 🤓
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    Not sure if someone is still keeping count, but I just received a N279 Notice of Discontinuance form by email from DCB Legal saying that UKPC instructed them to drop the claim.

    They sent it a couple of days after the court issued letters confirming the date of the hearing, so I'm guessing DCB Legal thought this wasn't worth their £27 trial fee. Surely claimants repeatedly dropping claims like these should be charged a fee anyway, considering the waste of court (and defendant) time...

    Many thanks to @Coupon-mad and this forum for helping me navigate this legal minefield!
    Further to my post above about this Inquiry:

    Deadline now extended  until January:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7972/work-of-the-county-court/

    I've been posting a lot about it on threads to encourage victims to tell the Justice Committee that consumers need a bespoke 'parking pre-action protocol' designed to keep cases out of court.

    Your case has ruined your peace of mind for ages, only for DCB Legal to walk away when you didn't blink.

    This treatment of motorists should be illegal.

    The 'debt claims pre-action protocol' is not fit for purpose for these cases.  Please do respond to the questions and OBJECT to the Debt Forms that are sent at pre-action stage, and ask the Committee to insist on a proper ADR and 'private parking protocol' to resolve disputes and expose the worst rogue PCNs out of the county court system. 

    The 'Debt Claims' reply form (the one you got months ago at LBC stage) intrusively asks victims to tell some random thug/rogue ex-clampers all about their household and income/financial position, assumes there is a 'debt' owed under a credit agreement - which there isn't - and the debt claims procedure doesn't match the DLUHC's incoming Code of Practice.  Nor does it offer dispute resolution.


    "This inquiry is currently accepting evidence

    The committee wants to hear your views. We welcome submissions from anyone with answers to the questions in the call for evidence.

    You can submit evidence until Wednesday 17 January 2024."

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  • Maybe I’m being paranoid but I still can’t see a confirmation of that N279 on the MCOL website. The court hearing was scheduled for the end of this month and so I’m wondering if I need to seek confirmation from the court, just in case DCB “forgot” to let them know. Is this something they’ve done in the past, and any suggestions on what to do?
  • KeithP
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    Once a case is transferred to a hearing court, nothing gets updated on the MCOL Claim History.
    That MCOL Claim History on only there for logging a claim's progress through the CCBC/CNBC. Nothing more.
  • Umkomaas
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    MCOL/CNBC (formerly CCBC) are weeks behind in their admin. Try ringing the court for first hand info. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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