Neighbour issue

user1977

LifeisYours said:

CurlySue2017 said:

[Deleted User] said:

CurlySue2017 said:

diystarter7 said:

An option I had forgotten about may be a solution is build an extension to max height right up to the fend and have sealed windows nearest to next door and windows that open on the other side.

Thanks

That seems very extreme for a bit of cigarette smoke!

Though it is a step down from the earlier suggestion of buying a detached house with 16 acres of free space on each side, to avoid a bit of ciggy smoke and, presumably, the smell of garlic bread, or something. (Just avoid rural detached, if smells are offensive; definitely avoid anywhere near a pig farm.)

LOL right!!  This just all seems so unbelievable, that someone would get this upset about a bit of smoke and food smells, I mean really?  Talk about real world problems

drying my clothes outside (where the clothes will absorb the stench)

One person having an occasional fag in next door's garden is not going to make your laundry stink of smoke.

jrawle

That's a whole other subject though, how many other industries that people use every day exploit people in the third world......cheap electronics, cheap clothing, cheap everything. 

You also seem to presume that I'm a smoker, just to clarify I am not.

Those other items don't directly kill people, simply by using them as intended, though. Also, nowhere do I say you are a smoker, nor direct comments about hypocrisy to you personally (or at least that wasn't the intention). I was referring to people in general who campaign on certain issues while smoking.

An easier reply to your earlier post would be that if you don't like discussing what you term "first world issues", perhaps the MoneySavingExpert forum is not for you, as it could apply equally to everything on here. It is a consumer advice forum, after all.

diystarter7

CurlySue2017 said:

diystarter7 said:

CurlySue2017 said:

[Deleted User] said:

CurlySue2017 said:

diystarter7 said:

An option I had forgotten about may be a solution is build an extension to max height right up to the fend and have sealed windows nearest to next door and windows that open on the other side.

Thanks

That seems very extreme for a bit of cigarette smoke!

Though it is a step down from the earlier suggestion of buying a detached house with 16 acres of free space on each side, to avoid a bit of ciggy smoke and, presumably, the smell of garlic bread, or something. (Just avoid rural detached, if smells are offensive; definitely avoid anywhere near a pig farm.)

LOL right!!  This just all seems so unbelievable, that someone would get this upset about a bit of smoke and food smells, I mean really?  Talk about real world problems

Hi

Not sure what you find funny "about a bit of smoke."?

You make think it is a joke but people post here to seek help/advice/opinions that
will help them and not be mocked.

One of our children has severe asthma and the more they steer clear of smoke/etc the worse it gets next time.
Sat on a train, if a smoker comes and sits near them they have to move and this is not because of the stink
but because asthma attacks have been triggered in the past. Our kid has an allergy to cigarette smoke, smoke, pets and all nuts.

It is not a "LOL" matter but something that is serious and in this instance the OP that posted it.

Times have changed, and people's knowledge about secondary smoke most of us were and still are exposed to is no "LOL" matter.

TBH, I'm not sure how you find your post helpful. Please never forget passive smoking damages other people's health and certain things affect certain people in a way that it makes their lives miserable and can make them ill.

About "food smells," you find that funny as well and TBH, when I was younger and naive I used to joke about that in my early teen years. Even some food smells can trigger allergic reactions but on the whole, people just don't like the smell or it makes them want to leave the house/area etc. I've found and posted about this before on this thread that when I am eating certain foods, smells fine but if others are cooking it, the smells put me off

We are all different and just because you may disagree with an OP/poster, by all means, do but please do not mock them as this makes any argument you make pretty irrelevant.

I've read quite a few of your posts and often agree with what you say but I am sorry as this post of yours did wind me up a little as you are better than that.

Take care.

Your opinion is no more correct than mine though is it? 

To be clear, passive smoking is not an "opinion."

CurlySue2017

jrawle said:

That's a whole other subject though, how many other industries that people use every day exploit people in the third world......cheap electronics, cheap clothing, cheap everything. 

You also seem to presume that I'm a smoker, just to clarify I am not.

Those other items don't directly kill people, simply by using them as intended, though. Also, nowhere do I say you are a smoker, nor direct comments about hypocrisy to you personally (or at least that wasn't the intention). I was referring to people in general who campaign on certain issues while smoking.

An easier reply to your earlier post would be that if you don't like discussing what you term "first world issues", perhaps the MoneySavingExpert forum is not for you, as it could apply equally to everything on here. It is a consumer advice forum, after all.

I have no problem discussing it, where did you get the idea that I don't like discussing it?

I will repeat again, as reading seems to be a bit of an issue

In my opinion, this is a massive over-reaction to a very small problem. 

This is my opinion only, I do not care if others agree or not.

I am not saying the people that disagree with me are wrong.

But I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours.

We do not have to agree, but we both have the right to comment on an open, public forum.

To the OP - Take your complaint to the council as some people have suggested.  You will be told to politely go away I can assure you. 

Councils will not investigate people smoking perfectly legal cigarettes or cooking smelly food on their own premises. 

EssexHebridean

Goodness, this thread really has degenerated into a mass of judgemental comment, passive aggressive insults and general unpleasantness hasn't it. Never mind the cigarette smoke, there seems to a strong smell of entitlement lurking from some at least... 

Last I looked, this was a public forum, where everyone has an equal right of reply. 

Hopefully OP you have had at least some practical and useful advice given in the early part of the thread - the tall plants etc. I suspect that it's correct that the council will not be in a position to offer help - unless the neighbour is standing at the back door day and night puffing away and physically blowing the smoke at your property, then I'd think this would come under their rights to enjoy their property. Similarly the cooking smells - and I'd suggest some care there too as often when people complain about cooking smells it turns out that they are referring to specific types of food that might be strongly associated with particular ethnic groups. You've not said what sort of foods it is, and I'm not suggesting you fall into that group, but I'd suggest that you might be cautious that you aren't saying anything if you DO contact the council that could be construed (or indeed misconstrued!) as hateful language. 

If it were me, I'd be starting by purchasing a piece of trellis to attach to the relevant bit of fence and selecting some fast growing climbers to grow up it - for this time of year a winter jasmine would be worth thinking about - you can then weave it through the trellis as it grows to make a more solid barrier over time. Consider adding some nice smelling plants in pots for summer too as that will also help to cover the smells. This would at least be a relatively budget friendly way of masking - if not solving - the problem. 

diystarter7

user1977 said:

LifeisYours said:

CurlySue2017 said:

[Deleted User] said:

CurlySue2017 said:

diystarter7 said:

An option I had forgotten about may be a solution is build an extension to max height right up to the fend and have sealed windows nearest to next door and windows that open on the other side.

Thanks

That seems very extreme for a bit of cigarette smoke!

Though it is a step down from the earlier suggestion of buying a detached house with 16 acres of free space on each side, to avoid a bit of ciggy smoke and, presumably, the smell of garlic bread, or something. (Just avoid rural detached, if smells are offensive; definitely avoid anywhere near a pig farm.)

LOL right!!  This just all seems so unbelievable, that someone would get this upset about a bit of smoke and food smells, I mean really?  Talk about real world problems

drying my clothes outside (where the clothes will absorb the stench)

One person having an occasional fag in next door's garden is not going to make your laundry stink of smoke.

Hi

You can't guarantee that as you also have to take into consideration one sense of smell, and or allergies.
Not in a garden but in flats, years ago I recall a client cursing the person living below their flat who smoked and made her washing smell of that. (people hug some washing on the balconies.)


Thanks

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

jrawle said:

At the end of the day it's a few wafts of smoke outside, in the open air.  Like I said, first world problems

Oh the irony. Have you any idea what tobacco companies do to people in the third world? How they exploit people there, both in tobacco production, and in the marketing of their deadly products? Plus the legacy of tobacco-related slavery. How many people on the streets in London protesting to remove statues or for "reparations" for slavery centuries ago have a cigarette in their hand? A product absolutely no-one needs to use, neither in the past nor now. Hypocrites! Anyone who smokes and supports the tobacco companies is responsible for the way people in developing countries are impacted by smoking, before you even consider the problems it causes in the first world.

Chocolate, coffee, avocados, palm oil and on it goes, it's very easy to vilify smokers but we pretty much all indulge in some kind of product that isn't a necessity but causes suffering and they are all driven by global companies seeking vast profits. 

Hypocrite is a word that should be used very carefully. 

The government should raise the age of smoking every year as the age verification requirements are in place already for the places that sell tobacco, it's obviously not full proof but would make a significant impact on a younger generation who don't deserve to be subjected to a very nasty drug. 

The idea that our child could grow up in a country where they can't smoke is a good one, a country where they can grow up without access to any nicotine at all would be even better.