HMO PROPERTY NEXT DOOR (BEDSITTS)

Gycraig

GiantTCR said:

tellingtruthalways1244 said:

anselld said:

Cedartree123 said:

Planning and licensing are two different things. If the HMO is for 6 or more unrelated people it requires planning permission to be converted from a house to a HMO. If it is for 5 or less, it will only need planning permission in areas covered by Article 4 Directions blocking that exact thing.

check on your councils planning pages. If no planning permission has been granted to convert it into a 6 person plus HMO, then it is worth giving your Council’s planning enforcement team a call to ask them to investigate. 

If you are referring to the change of use from c4 to Sui Generis that is for more than six persons.  A six person HMO does not require planning permission unless Article 4 declaration applies.
Selective licensing is also irrelevant since a six bed HMO would already require a mandatory license.
So the situation for the OP is that planning permission is not required but a license application would be required prior to occupation.  The only grounds for objection would be some failure to meet the licensing requirements which is probably unlikely if the developer knows what they are doing.

Well I guess we cant do anything since the same owners have bought approximately 6 house on the estate with 1 being complete 1 year ago and holding 6 tenants already, I really hope we dont end up moving out because of nuisance from neighbours, god knows who will live in such small bedrooms...

I mean, you can guess the type of tenants that will move in next to your property.

If I was in your position I'd make 2 phone calls: the first one to the council for them to investigate the matter; the second one to an estate agent to start the proceedings for selling your property and move out of the area.

How can you guess the quality exactly without knowing how much is being charged a month. 

We have a ymca around the corner from our property which I assume would be worst than most bedsit and I didn’t even know it was there until I was told. 

The looking down on people who live in bedsits in this post is actually pathetic tbh. 

theartfullodger

At least your new neighbours won't be whining on about house prices all the time. 

Joseph and M were looking for somewhere to stay.  Would you have wanted them to move on somewhere else?

Best wishes to all including those who disagree with me.

CKhalvashi

tellingtruthalways1244 said:

_Penny_Dreadful said:

The wrong people...you mean tenants?

As there are 6 intercoms that doesn't sound like a HMO, that sounds like the property has been converted into 6 separate dwellings.  Have you tried searching for planning applications made to Ealing Council?

Hi, sorry what i ment was that it may bring people who could cause noise, nuisance ect, just preparing for the worst case scenario. This was previously a 3 bedroom house, now looks like it will be 6 bedsits, (1 intercom with 6 bells) the street is end of terrece houses. No planning application have been made from my research, they did a loft and back extension but within limit where no planning would be required 

In fairness, we've had more noise living next to our current neighbours (a couple/baby with 3 very loud dogs who constantly argue and in fact are right now, drugs play a part in this and we have always liaised with the relevant people when asked) than 6 bed first year pilot group (who always alerted us if there was going to be large amounts of noise which was once a month if that). Make of that what you will.

If you have issues, I'd report this to the council, otherwise, let your neighbours live their lives and live your own.

CKhalvashi

tellingtruthalways1244 said:

I have just found that on the estate there is already a few hmo's earliest ones since 2019 - 2021 and atleast 10 more 3 bedroom houses being transformed in to 6 unit hmo's, I have found atleast 16 and all being owned by two men from same nationality and very similar postcodes.. so seems they definitely know each other, how is this even being allowed??? Alot of properties will lose in value, how is it possible a one way in estate is allowed so many HMO? Is there anything we can do as a estate/ village if more people start complaining????

That is not clear proof that 2 people know each other at all.

There are several families of my nationality in the same postcode area to where we lived about 15 years ago. I've only knowingly met one of them (an aviation professional who did some translation work for a documentary for an event I was working but didn't take part in 2007), but that was when working on a completely different project several years later.

Your post comes across as very judgmental towards certain nationalities and I'm not sure how that is at all relevant to any concerns you may or may not have.

mi-key

Perhaps they are going to let them to very respectful, rich and quiet overseas students rather than drug addled criminals? or students from the local deaf and mute school? That should allay some of your fears about your house price being effected...

The noisiest neighbours I ever had were a VERY well off doctor and his wife ( this was just their City house as it was close to the hospital, he had at least two others ! )  who seemed to have dinner parties at least 4 nights a week into the small hours, always had half the street filled with their friends cars and would stand out in the street all shouting to each other when they left....