Standby costs

Spoonie_Turtle

wild666 said:

I think that turning stuff off at the wall socket has no effect on the life of the product, before remote controls were added to the likes of TV's some people used to turn them off at the wall socket when they weren't using it. Many older products from the 60's were regularly turned off at the wall socket when they weren't in use and they lasted as long, if not longer than the modern stuff.

Comparing old technology to new like that is pretty pointless, because they're so very different.

InvertedVee

Under the One Watt Initiative, devices sold since 2013 use less than 0.5W in standby. That's less than £1.50 a year. I don't consider this saving to be worth the hassle of switching off.

TVs and broadband routers typically check for updates overnight, so not a good idea to turn them off. Turning off your router/hub will also interfere with the internet connection calibrations, which can lead to worsened performance.

ariarnia

InvertedVee said:

Under the One Watt Initiative, devices sold since 2013 use less than 0.5W in standby. That's less than £1.50 a year. I don't consider this saving to be worth the hassle of switching off.

TVs and broadband routers typically check for updates overnight, so not a good idea to turn them off. Turning off your router/hub will also interfere with the internet connection calibrations, which can lead to worsened performance.

that depends on the settings on the device. if its connected to the internet (like a smart tv or games console) then it can use more than 0.5w. sometimes a lot more. so its worth checking your devices not just going off blanket advice that might or might not be right for your house. 

Cirrus1

Also if you have smart devices switching off the Wi-Fi is not an option. I would rather pay for the minimal electricity and have the benefits of an interconnected house.

MattMattMattUK

InvertedVee said:

Under the One Watt Initiative, devices sold since 2013 use less than 0.5W in standby. That's less than £1.50 a year. I don't consider this saving to be worth the hassle of switching off.

TVs and broadband routers typically check for updates overnight, so not a good idea to turn them off. Turning off your router/hub will also interfere with the internet connection calibrations, which can lead to worsened performance.

I have a relatively new Sony OLED 65 inch Android TV, it technically complies as in standby with WiFi off it uses 0.3W in standby, however with WiFi on and network settings such as wake on app etc. it uses 25W in standby. Almost all smart TVs do something similar and come with those things turned on so standby power usage is usually higher straight out of the box.

steven0121

MattMattMattUK said:

born_again said:

Which begs the question. Who only uses the TV for 4 hours a day. 
Which actual manufactures devices were they using & were they the latest or older products that many will have?

As to switching on & off. All I can base my findings on. Is the MIL used to go through kitchen products a lot more than us. As they were turned on & off for each use... 

I would hazard a guess at most people with a job use the TV for less than four hours a day, even less on average if they also have a social life.

so, are you suggesting that, say someone like me, a disabled person who can barely leave there own flat (elec only - cant afford to move because I cant find a landlord willing, and the rents keep going up) who has no friends, because, guess what, I cant make any, because, guess what, I live alone in an all elec flat and have no money. 

So, back to your point, its my fault that I watch TV, or at least have it on, more than 4 hours/day?

I hope you pop a few quid in the church to pay for your sanctimonious self centred and frankly cruel pov.

chris_n

I went through the checking standby consumption and switching things off years ago in the days of CRT TV's and first gen sky boxes etc. At that point it was worth switching things off. With anytmade in the last 10 years it is much more likely to cost more to switch things off due to failure of electronic components under surge conditions on start up.

ariarnia

steven0121 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

born_again said:

Which begs the question. Who only uses the TV for 4 hours a day. 
Which actual manufactures devices were they using & were they the latest or older products that many will have?

As to switching on & off. All I can base my findings on. Is the MIL used to go through kitchen products a lot more than us. As they were turned on & off for each use... 

I would hazard a guess at most people with a job use the TV for less than four hours a day, even less on average if they also have a social life.

so, are you suggesting that, say someone like me, a disabled person who can barely leave there own flat (elec only - cant afford to move because I cant find a landlord willing, and the rents keep going up) who has no friends, because, guess what, I cant make any, because, guess what, I live alone in an all elec flat and have no money. 

So, back to your point, its my fault that I watch TV, or at least have it on, more than 4 hours/day?

I hope you pop a few quid in the church to pay for your sanctimonious self centred and frankly cruel pov.

saying most people doesn't mean all people (so doesn't say anything about people who arent 'average') and it wasnt a value judgement so 'fault' has nothing to do with it  (said as someone with a disability who spends most of there time at home and who has very little social life)

MattMattMattUK

steven0121 said:

MattMattMattUK said:

born_again said:

Which begs the question. Who only uses the TV for 4 hours a day. 
Which actual manufactures devices were they using & were they the latest or older products that many will have?

As to switching on & off. All I can base my findings on. Is the MIL used to go through kitchen products a lot more than us. As they were turned on & off for each use... 

I would hazard a guess at most people with a job use the TV for less than four hours a day, even less on average if they also have a social life.

so, are you suggesting that, say someone like me, a disabled person who can barely leave there own flat (elec only - cant afford to move because I cant find a landlord willing, and the rents keep going up) who has no friends, because, guess what, I cant make any, because, guess what, I live alone in an all elec flat and have no money. 

So, back to your point, its my fault that I watch TV, or at least have it on, more than 4 hours/day?

The original person I replied to saying that they could not understand how someone could only use a TV for four hours a day. I pointed out that most working people would likely fit into that category. The reason the four hour per day figure is used for annual energy estimates for TVs is because that is the average usage figure. None of that is about "fault" or whatever else you have decided to get upset about, it is just a factual answer to a question.

steven0121 said:

I hope you pop a few quid in the church to pay for your sanctimonious self centred and frankly cruel pov.

I am not religious and I fail to see how a factual reply is any of what you claim to be offended about, if you are unable to understand that people who work and socialise outside of their home will generally not watch more than four hours a day of TV then it would appear that the issue is yours.

steven0121

Its not about "most, or Average", or value judgement" or "fault", its about a simple thing,

In a world where you can anything, be Kind

If you cant, then expect someone to bite back.