Got Vodafone full fibre today. Need landline advice

matelodave

Stompa said:

matelodave said:

AFAIK there is no extra charge for incoming calls, so assuming that they've transferred your number then all incomers are free.

Out going calls are charged at unit rates as shown on VF's T&C's unless you pay for a package. Unlimited off peak (evenings and weekends are £4 a month, Unlimited anytime are £8 month).

Thanks for that. I mainly want to use it for incoming calls, but it would be good if outgoing calls weren't too expensive. Alternatively I guess I should be able to use a 3rd party VOIP provider.

Depends what you call expensive - 19p set up and 11.5p minute to landlines and 13p to mobiles sound like extortion to me (but AFAIK its still cheaper than BT's out of bundle charges)

A ten minute call to a landline would cost you around £1.34 (£1.49 to a mobile), so paying £8 a month for anytime calls is a bargain compared with less than 60 minutes  at unit rates

Stompa

matelodave said:

Stompa said:

matelodave said:

AFAIK there is no extra charge for incoming calls, so assuming that they've transferred your number then all incomers are free.

Out going calls are charged at unit rates as shown on VF's T&C's unless you pay for a package. Unlimited off peak (evenings and weekends are £4 a month, Unlimited anytime are £8 month).

Thanks for that. I mainly want to use it for incoming calls, but it would be good if outgoing calls weren't too expensive. Alternatively I guess I should be able to use a 3rd party VOIP provider.

Depends what you call expensive - 19p set up and 11.5p minute to landlines and 13p to mobiles sound like extortion to me (but AFAIK its still cheaper than BT's out of bundle charges)

A ten minute call to a landline would cost you around £1.34 (£1.49 to a mobile), so paying £8 a month for anytime calls is a bargain compared with less than 60 minutes  at unit rates

I've had free anytime calls from BT for the last 3.5 years, so paying anything seems expensive!

matelodave

I also had "free" anytime calls with BT before I went with Vodafone, however as my BT Broadband costs with "free" calls was going to increase to something like £57 this time last year and BT would not negotiate I went to Vodafone and paid just £24 for broadband plus £8 for anytime calls, total £32. I changed over from BT to VF on 8th January 2022. 

The BT cost was due to go up by CPI+3.9% in April 2022 which would have made it just over £60 whereas even though VF were also imposing the April CPI+3.9% increasing it to £33.89 which is what I'm paying at the moment  (and for that I get 100mbits rather than 76mbits with BT and 100% of my calls on anytime, whereas BT had a limit of 700 minutes a month)

I don't know what the BT deals are like at the moment and TBH I'm quite happy with VF and I've still got another 12 months to go with them. I guess that the increase in April will push it up to around £38-£39 but that is still a lot less than I ever paid with BT who were the only company offering FTTP services when it became available around here some five years ago.

We only had around 1.8mbit/s broadband before FTTP came to our rural location, so it was worth paying the premium for a much faster service, however there wasn't any real competition for several years and there wasn't a proper system for transferring FTTP services between providers. I did investigate with ZEN, A+A and several others but it all involved cancelling my BT service and then re-applying to another provider

Most other companies didn't start offering FTTP around here until around the end of 2021, VF being one of the first with SKY and TT coming in mid 2022, I now have a lot more choice which wasn't available then.

In the end, do your sums to decide what you want and what you are prepared to pay and dont forget the CPI increase come April

Just had a look at BT deals, £34 for 76mbits plus £16 for anytime calls, which is still more than I'll end up paying in April and then BT will impose their CPI+3.9% which will push it up to around £45.

Stompa

matelodave said:

I also had "free" anytime calls with BT before I went with Vodafone, however as my BT Broadband costs with "free" calls was going to increase to something like £57 this time last year and BT would not negotiate I went to Vodafone and paid just £24 for broadband plus £8 for anytime calls, total £32. I changed over from BT to VF on 8th January 2022. 

The BT cost was due to go up by CPI+3.9% in April 2022 which would have made it just over £60 whereas even though VF were also imposing the April CPI+3.9% increasing it to £33.89 which is what I'm paying at the moment  (and for that I get 100mbits rather than 76mbits with BT and 100% of my calls on anytime, whereas BT had a limit of 700 minutes a month)

I don't know what the BT deals are like at the moment and TBH I'm quite happy with VF and I've still got another 12 months to go with them. I guess that the increase in April will push it up to around £38-£39 but that is still a lot less than I ever paid with BT who were the only company offering FTTP services when it became available around here some five years ago.

We only had around 1.8mbit/s broadband before FTTP came to our rural location, so it was worth paying the premium for a much faster service, however there wasn't any real competition for several years and there wasn't a proper system for transferring FTTP services between providers. I did investigate with ZEN, A+A and several others but it all involved cancelling my BT service and then re-applying to another provider

Most other companies didn't start offering FTTP around here until around the end of 2021, VF being one of the first with SKY and TT coming in mid 2022, I now have a lot more choice which wasn't available then.

In the end, do your sums to decide what you want and what you are prepared to pay and dont forget the CPI increase come April

Just had a look at BT deals, £34 for 76mbits plus £16 for anytime calls, which is still more than I'll end up paying in April and then BT will impose their CPI+3.9% which will push it up to around £45.

BT have just offered me another 2 years at the price I'm currently paying (£23.11pm), for Fibre 1 (50Mbps) and free unlimited anytime calls. I don't have a use for a faster connection, and I doubt I'll find better elsewhere, so I'll probably take the offer.

flaneurs_lobster

Stompa said:

matelodave said:

I also had "free" anytime calls with BT before I went with Vodafone, however as my BT Broadband costs with "free" calls was going to increase to something like £57 this time last year and BT would not negotiate I went to Vodafone and paid just £24 for broadband plus £8 for anytime calls, total £32. I changed over from BT to VF on 8th January 2022. 

The BT cost was due to go up by CPI+3.9% in April 2022 which would have made it just over £60 whereas even though VF were also imposing the April CPI+3.9% increasing it to £33.89 which is what I'm paying at the moment  (and for that I get 100mbits rather than 76mbits with BT and 100% of my calls on anytime, whereas BT had a limit of 700 minutes a month)

I don't know what the BT deals are like at the moment and TBH I'm quite happy with VF and I've still got another 12 months to go with them. I guess that the increase in April will push it up to around £38-£39 but that is still a lot less than I ever paid with BT who were the only company offering FTTP services when it became available around here some five years ago.

We only had around 1.8mbit/s broadband before FTTP came to our rural location, so it was worth paying the premium for a much faster service, however there wasn't any real competition for several years and there wasn't a proper system for transferring FTTP services between providers. I did investigate with ZEN, A+A and several others but it all involved cancelling my BT service and then re-applying to another provider

Most other companies didn't start offering FTTP around here until around the end of 2021, VF being one of the first with SKY and TT coming in mid 2022, I now have a lot more choice which wasn't available then.

In the end, do your sums to decide what you want and what you are prepared to pay and dont forget the CPI increase come April

Just had a look at BT deals, £34 for 76mbits plus £16 for anytime calls, which is still more than I'll end up paying in April and then BT will impose their CPI+3.9% which will push it up to around £45.

BT have just offered me another 2 years at the price I'm currently paying (£23.11pm), for Fibre 1 (50Mbps) and free unlimited anytime calls. I don't have a use for a faster connection, and I doubt I'll find better elsewhere, so I'll probably take the offer.

I'd love to know how you got that deal, I'm on Fibre 1 @ 48Mbps at £29/mth, no free calls, increase to come in April, contract up in July.

Stompa

flaneurs_lobster said:

Stompa said:

matelodave said:

I also had "free" anytime calls with BT before I went with Vodafone, however as my BT Broadband costs with "free" calls was going to increase to something like £57 this time last year and BT would not negotiate I went to Vodafone and paid just £24 for broadband plus £8 for anytime calls, total £32. I changed over from BT to VF on 8th January 2022. 

The BT cost was due to go up by CPI+3.9% in April 2022 which would have made it just over £60 whereas even though VF were also imposing the April CPI+3.9% increasing it to £33.89 which is what I'm paying at the moment  (and for that I get 100mbits rather than 76mbits with BT and 100% of my calls on anytime, whereas BT had a limit of 700 minutes a month)

I don't know what the BT deals are like at the moment and TBH I'm quite happy with VF and I've still got another 12 months to go with them. I guess that the increase in April will push it up to around £38-£39 but that is still a lot less than I ever paid with BT who were the only company offering FTTP services when it became available around here some five years ago.

We only had around 1.8mbit/s broadband before FTTP came to our rural location, so it was worth paying the premium for a much faster service, however there wasn't any real competition for several years and there wasn't a proper system for transferring FTTP services between providers. I did investigate with ZEN, A+A and several others but it all involved cancelling my BT service and then re-applying to another provider

Most other companies didn't start offering FTTP around here until around the end of 2021, VF being one of the first with SKY and TT coming in mid 2022, I now have a lot more choice which wasn't available then.

In the end, do your sums to decide what you want and what you are prepared to pay and dont forget the CPI increase come April

Just had a look at BT deals, £34 for 76mbits plus £16 for anytime calls, which is still more than I'll end up paying in April and then BT will impose their CPI+3.9% which will push it up to around £45.

BT have just offered me another 2 years at the price I'm currently paying (£23.11pm), for Fibre 1 (50Mbps) and free unlimited anytime calls. I don't have a use for a faster connection, and I doubt I'll find better elsewhere, so I'll probably take the offer.

I'd love to know how you got that deal, I'm on Fibre 1 @ 48Mbps at £29/mth, no free calls, increase to come in April, contract up in July.

They originally offered me it almost 3.5 years ago, after I instigated a switch to another provider (I think they called me). At my last renewal they offered to continue at the same price, and the same is true of my latest renewal offer. Both of those renewal offers were online ones, I've not needed to speak to them.

RavingMad

I've made a couple of test calls but I'm yet to see what I'll be charged. Not showing on my account.

I wonder when this service will be free?

Stompa

RavingMad said:

I've made a couple of test calls but I'm yet to see what I'll be charged. Not showing on my account.

I wonder when this service will be free?

Presumably:

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/homephone

iniltous

Not sure why you think VF will supply you with ‘free’ phone calls , it’s possible at some time in the future you may be able to negotiate a renewal deal , where they offer some deal to discount or supply calls as part of a bespoke deal to get you to renew ( or they may not )  , but it will never be the case that as standard VF will offer ‘free’ calls , 

RavingMad

I'm no longer "paying" for a landline; it's absorbed into the price I'm paying for my broadband. I think calls will go that way too, like mobile phones are unlimited mins now.

We'll see.