Looking at upgrading my old storage heaters and would really appreciate help.

MARKMAKAVELI

I'm ground floor flat on the end. Worth asking the question. 👍

Mstty

MARKMAKAVELI said:

I'm ground floor flat on the end. Worth asking the question. 👍

They can only say no what's the worse that can happen.

As an update when installed yesterday I had the garage door open all morning during the install so the temperature inside the barely insulated garage (3 bare brick walls,  with plasterboard ceiling and insulated one end fully where the large garage door used to open. Anyway it read the same as outside 6oC

In two hours operation it had bought the temperature up to 20oC for 1.25kwh. it then kept it there at that temperature for a further 0.5kwh (roughly based on our baseload but will confirm next week with a p110 monitor) 

This might be a useful 3 hours of operation for those that get home and only have 3 hours before going to bed and knowing it uses approx 1.75kwh for that time period at 20oC heating from a temperature same as outside in a barely insulated room. 

The garage is 16.5m2

We then ran the unit as a dehumidifier for an hour after Mrs mstty workout and that barely registered any use on our baseload so will need to properly measure this on the p110 next week but this morning the garage gym felt dryer but this could just be placebo I will invest in a thermometer and humidity thingme bob to check it is doing its thing well.

macman

Wouldn't it be worthwhile insulating the bare brick walls internally? I'm guessing this is a cavity wall if part of the main house structure?
But still a pretty impressive result!

Mstty

macman said:

Wouldn't it be worthwhile insulating the bare brick walls internally? I'm guessing this is a cavity wall if part of the main house structure?
But still a pretty impressive result!

Definitely.

It's a completely seperate garage so single skin. We are 18 months into our plan for the house. We are going to insulate the 3 remaining bare brick walls in time, we may even put bi-folds on one of the long sides which faces the kitchen french doors with planning permission. But for now the price of heating up this home gym for use in the winter and cooling in the summer is looking good until we get round to that.

MARKMAKAVELI

Hello again, I wondered if you guys could help me as I revisit this please?

Circumstances have changed, we've got a child on the way so main focus is keeping the place warm enough in the winter- get rid of old storage heaters that run out of heat by the afternoon. This is what the heater guy has quoted me (I've filled in the room size)

Bedroom heater (Approx 3x3m area) - Creda TPR111 150E Instantaneous (two of these, one for each bedroom) 

                    

Living Room heater (Approx 4x3m area) - Sunhouse SSHE 1.5kw storage heater

He said that I'm better off with instant heat in the bedrooms, shove it on before bed and when you first get up and that'll be fine.

Having a new born, I want to ensure that she's going to be warm enough in the night so debating if I actually need storage heaters in the bedrooms as well to keep on low during the night?

I'm on Octopus eco7 - day rate 29.16p and night rate 12.49p.

Do I go for storage heaters in bedrooms or do I switch tariff completely and go all 'instant'? Or do what he said, or any other way? Thanks

MattMattMattUK

MARKMAKAVELI said:

Hello again, I wondered if you guys could help me as I revisit this please?

Circumstances have changed, we've got a child on the way so main focus is keeping the place warm enough in the winter- get rid of old storage heaters that run out of heat by the afternoon. This is what the heater guy has quoted me (I've filled in the room size)

Bedroom heater (Approx 3x3m area) - Creda TPR111 150E Instantaneous (two of these, one for each bedroom) 

                    

Living Room heater (Approx 4x3m area) - Sunhouse SSHE 1.5kw storage heater

He said that I'm better off with instant heat in the bedrooms, shove it on before bed and when you first get up and that'll be fine.

Having a new born, I want to ensure that she's going to be warm enough in the night so debating if I actually need storage heaters in the bedrooms as well to keep on low during the night?

I'm on Octopus eco7 - day rate 29.16p and night rate 12.49p.

Do I go for storage heaters in bedrooms or do I switch tariff completely and go all 'instant'? Or do what he said, or any other way? Thanks

I would not be doing any of that if I was in your position, I would be getting Dimplex Quantum storage heaters.

Panel heaters are 2-5 times more expensive to run than storage heaters depending on exact tariff, usage pattern etc. as peak electricity or single tariff is quite a bit more expensive than E7 off peak. If you go to a single rate tariff then your water heating will also get significantly more expensive. Storage heaters like the Quantums also have an instant heat/boost option if you need it. The Quantums will be more expensive to install, but cheaper to operate, depending on the insulation and how warm you keep the property you could break even in 12-36 months vs panel heaters.

MARKMAKAVELI said:

Having a new born, I want to ensure that she's going to be warm enough in the night so debating if I actually need storage heaters in the bedrooms as well to keep on low during the night?

It is worth having a read of the guidelines for newborns/babies sleeping, but in many cases too warm is a bigger issue than too cold. Their bedroom should be 16-20c and ideally they should be sleeping in a sleeping bag/grow bag without and additional blankets. I am guessing that the baby will be in bedroom 2 from your plan which only has one external side so will benefit from heat from the rest of the property. 

https://www.nhs.uk/start-for-life/baby/baby-basics/newborn-and-baby-sleeping-advice-for-parents/safe-sleep-advice-for-babies/

MARKMAKAVELI

We're planning on getting a house in 6months - 1yr.

I'll either sell or rent it out. 

So based on initial up front costs and only having one winter here, I'm leaning towards the plan from the heating guy in the knowledge like you said, my bills will be a lot higher but at least it'll be optional as some days we won't want to even heat one of the bedrooms. 

In the worst case scenario and we do need to keep it on through the night it would be in lowest setting, so whilst pricey would still likely cost less than forking out for new storage heaters in each bedroom and powering them every night in the event we might need them the next day. 👍

Thanks 

BarelySentientAI

Good quality modern storage heaters are more attractive to buyers in my opinion.  Exactly because its a cheaper thing to run.