Tyres performed poorly in recent snow — get better summer ones or all-season?

mgfvvc

chris_n said:

As @[Deleted User] says you need minimum revs, the higher gear thing only applies once you are moving and again the idea is to keep the revs low.

The higher gear thing is not just for when you are moving. Many years ago, I got stuck in snow (on summer tyres). In first gear, I couldn't find any grip no matter how low the revs. In second gear, I couldn't find any grip no matter how low the revs. In third gear I was able to find enough grip to get the car moving and return to a clearer road.

basill

I suspect the best time to buy all season tyres is midsummer :-)   I paid £150 each for Crossclimate 2 in July, the same tyres were £200 last week!

Iceweasel

basill said:

I suspect the best time to buy all season tyres is midsummer :-)   I paid £150 each for Crossclimate 2 in July, the same tyres were £200 last week!

I would agree - I bought four new Michelin Alpin4 runflat full Winter tyres back in August when ATS / Michelin had an offer on.

Michelin own ATS - so there are frequent promotions / good deals on Michelin.

I got 'free' fitting, free nitrogen inflation, and £64 cashback.

I paid using a Santander credit card and got another £30 back as it was a 'partner retailer' deal.

It worked out that one tyre was free - i.e a 25% discount in total - very MSE.

Now is the best time to buy Summer tyres.

basill

Iceweasel said:

basill said:

I suspect the best time to buy all season tyres is midsummer :-)   I paid £150 each for Crossclimate 2 in July, the same tyres were £200 last week!

I would agree - I bought four new Michelin Alpin4 runflat full Winter tyres back in August when ATS / Michelin had an offer on.

Michelin own ATS - so there are frequent promotions / good deals on Michelin.

I got 'free' fitting, free nitrogen inflation, and £64 cashback.

I paid using a Santander credit card and got another £30 back as it was a 'partner retailer' deal.

It worked out that one tyre was free - i.e a 25% discount in total - very MSE.

Now is the best time to buy Summer tyres.

Now is a very bad time to get a non repairable puncture in ones All season tyre.   Tyre shop wanted £225 for a new one, after a bit of googling and negotiation they matched Asda tyres £180 fitted.  Always worth asking!   

Robbo66

Winter or all season tyres are in my opinion a waste of money, we had what a week of bad weather and snow on the ground with the likelihood of more diminishing everyday until maybe next year. Why lumber yourself with the extra cost when in reality its not needed in this country

diystarter7

greyteam1959 said:

Most of your problems most probably result from lack of experience in driving in snow rather than your tyres.

Hi
I was thinking the same but not "most."
In automatic cars, rear-wheel drive cars, older ones, you get loads of problems and once you are stuck you are stuck while others cars manage with ease.

With manual cars, summer tyres etc, most can still manage unless its really bad - auto rear wheel drive cars some can manage but most will get stuck if they stop and try to get going o a slight incline or more - newer auto cars come with many gadgets by newer cars i mean from around 10/12 years ago


If you have an auto 2 rear wheel drive - contis winter contact etc, you can't go wrong

Even 4x4 in wrong hands can go wrong, tyres plays a big part and just as big if not a bit bigger your skills. However, or the nicer/higher end cars you got press of a button, turn of the know to drive on slippery conditons and this is good even on summer tyres

The car i have has very wide tyres, wider than most vhecles and more difficult to get traction but if you drive carefully its a 4x4 and then go into slippery mode, you are good without winter tyres - i guess contis on my car would make it drive like a tank,

Thanks

SpudGunPaul

diystarter7 said:

greyteam1959 said:

Most of your problems most probably result from lack of experience in driving in snow rather than your tyres.

Hi
I was thinking the same but not "most."
In automatic cars, rear-wheel drive cars, older ones, you get loads of problems and once you are stuck you are stuck while others cars manage with ease.

With manual cars, summer tyres etc, most can still manage unless its really bad - auto rear wheel drive cars some can manage but most will get stuck if they stop and try to get going o a slight incline or more - newer auto cars come with many gadgets by newer cars i mean from around 10/12 years ago


If you have an auto 2 rear wheel drive - contis winter contact etc, you can't go wrong

Even 4x4 in wrong hands can go wrong, tyres plays a big part and just as big if not a bit bigger your skills. However, or the nicer/higher end cars you got press of a button, turn of the know to drive on slippery conditons and this is good even on summer tyres

The car i have has very wide tyres, wider than most vhecles and more difficult to get traction but if you drive carefully its a 4x4 and then go into slippery mode, you are good without winter tyres - i guess contis on my car would make it drive like a tank,

Thanks

That's doesn't make sense, if you put the contis on a 4x4 by your logic you can't go wrong. 

baser999

basill said:

I suspect the best time to buy all season tyres is midsummer :-)   I paid £150 each for Crossclimate 2 in July, the same tyres were £200 last week!

You just need to shop around, not sure it’s seasonal related. Crossclimate after all are all-season so  would they have a specific time for being discounted? 

400ixl

diystarter7 said:

In automatic cars, rear-wheel drive cars, older ones, you get loads of problems and once you are stuck you are stuck while others cars manage with ease.

With manual cars, summer tyres etc, most can still manage unless its really bad - auto rear wheel drive cars some can manage but most will get stuck if they stop and try to get going o a slight incline or more - newer auto cars come with many gadgets by newer cars i mean from around 10/12 years ago

Pretty much every automatic both old and new has the ability to be set to pull away in different gears. So it is not different to owning an manual. You just have to know what you are doing.

Also, being RWD is not an issue if you are prepared and think about putting additional weight over the rear axle.

There is not reason a RWD auto is less capable that a FWD manual. Own both a RWD auto sports car and a FWD manual SUV and would not take one over the other in snow, short of the extra ground clearance in the SUV.

basill

baser999 said:

basill said:

I suspect the best time to buy all season tyres is midsummer :-)   I paid £150 each for Crossclimate 2 in July, the same tyres were £200 last week!

You just need to shop around, not sure it’s seasonal related. Crossclimate after all are all-season so  would they have a specific time for being discounted? 

Did plenty of shopping around, tyres available on promotion with good discount during summer, not so much when the bad weather comes.