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Can anyone identify these plants please?

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I found two plants in my garden I am not sure what they are. Can anyone please help me identify them?

Thank you!

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  • Here is the first plant:




  • and here is the second plant:


  • Flugelhorn
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    In plant (2), are those leaves (7 points) to the right of the picture actually part of it? is so I think that is a hellebore
  • Flugelhorn
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    re plant (1) have seen those spotty leaves somewhere but can't think where! Keep wanting to say Persicaria but not sure that it is
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  • Flugelhorn
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    Misslayed said:
    I think you are right - have seen that in a friends garden and the leaves do look similar
  • Apologise that the weather made the identification unnecessarily difficult. I mainly want to rule out they are not invasive plants like Japanese Knotweed or Himalayan Balsam.
  • baser999
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    Not Japanese knotweed. 
  • Woolsery
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    Apologise that the weather made the identification unnecessarily difficult. I mainly want to rule out they are not invasive plants like Japanese Knotweed or Himalayan Balsam.
    Both of those disappear below ground at this season, but from what's visible, it's highly unlikely. The dead stems are too thin. Whatever it is, it's a perennial, and the only clue is it flowered a considerable time ago.
    In no particular order, I (think) I can see:
    Pulmonaria, Hellebore, Geum (or it might be the weed variety Wood Avens) Dandelion, Leucanthemum...or maybe a Poppy, Hypericum and a fair bit of what looks like Couch grass. There's also something from the dead nettle family...not necessarily a weed!
    HTH. :)
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