Filling a ceiling rose hole

ashe

Hi, had a ceiling rose taken out today. Can I just fill this with easy fill 60 or is it too big? 

If not do I need to put some ply or something above it? 

Ebe_Scrooge

What I've done before with a similar hole is stuff some scrunched-up newspaper into it to pretty much fill it, leaving just a bit of a hole, then go over it with filler.  You might need to do a couple of coats of filler - one to fill the worst of it, let it dry, then go over it again with a thin layer to finish it off.  I find it easier to leave the filler ever so slightly proud, then sand it back so that it's perfectly flat and flush with the surrounding plaster.

FreeBear

If you have access to the other side of the hole, I'd stick a bit of card or ply over the hole then fill.

Failing that, just fill from below. Spray a bit of water in the hole before applying the filler so that the plasterboard doesn't suck all the moisture out of the filler.

Murmansk

I think if you were to just fill it you'd end up with most of your filler going up into the void above so as someone else said, fill the hole with, in my case, some scrunched up tissues until you have  a nice, relatively firm, foundation onto which to apply your filler

Greatgimp

put a longer bit of wood up there, pull it down with a screw in the middle, and rough fill, then finish off later.

Grenage

As above, I always use a bit of scrap wood.  I tend to use a little pva on the ends, then fill when dry.

I also dab some diluted pva on the plasterboard edges so that it's a bit more stable.

Mutton_Geoff

Put a piece of wood slightly narrower than the hole but 2-3 times as long. Thread it in, centre it and put one screw each side of the hole through the plasterboard and into the wood to fix it securely. Tighten screw so head is recessed then fill over the holes.

Make sure no cables lurking in the vicinity.

plumb1_2

Cut a strip of wood about 100 mm , drill a small hole in the middle and fit some string through it.
put the wood into the hole and centralise it, next screw through the plasterboard into the wood either side of the hole. 

Pva wood and around hole, wait to dry the use easyfill 

ashe

Thanks guys, job done. 

After first coat of easyfill I've allowed this to dry and will wait 24h

i take it should then sand back a bit and do a second coat and then sand that back for a smooth finish? If so what grit do I want to use?

I saw something about sponging the easyfill while wet on the second coat, is that some special plastering sponge or just the soft side of any wet sponge will do the job? And you do that after it's "set" (so an hour or so)? Guess I'm worried about it messing the finish up 

FreeBear

80 grit to get rid of any big lumps & bumps. 120 grit for the final smoothing down.

I wouldn't bother doing any sponging - Just get as smooth a finish as you can from the trowel or filler knife. Multiple thin coats are better than one or two thick ones.

ashe

So sanded down and added second coat, 

I've got a few of these bubbles appearing, anything to worry about or do I just sand the smooth once dry?