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Cost of energy per day

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  • macman
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    Basics: what temp is the 'stat set to ('low' could mean anything from 15C to 22C depending on your perceptions), and how may hours a day is the CH on for?
    Just too many variables to give a meaningful answer otherwise, but £12 a day is certainly not exceptional. Quote us your kWh usage and then more advice can be given. A 4 b/r detached property will of course be more expensive than a similarly insulated 4 b/r terrace or semi.
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  • NannaH
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    edited 4 December 2022 at 1:45PM
    I’ve used 220kwh of gas this week, so £23 with standing charge.
    50kwh of electricity = £22.

    £45 a week total -
    heating is on at 18° all day 07.00- 20.00,  up to 19° for perhaps 30 mins in the evening.   Set to 14° overnight.  
    I’m using the airfryer + microwave or gas hob around 4 days and electric oven the other 3.  
    3 baths a week (him)  + 3 or 4 showers (me). 
    My DD is £160 a month and I was >£300 in credit in September.   So I’m around £30 over my DD in the winter months but will be way under for 7 months of the year.   With the £67 credit it’s costing me £130 a month through the winter,  which is around £10 a week more than when I was on my very low fix. 
    3 bedroom 1970’s semi with combi boiler. 
    I expect to be £200 in credit come the spring,  unless we have a very cold/damp winter. 
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 14 December 2022 at 8:56PM
    People who don't think £70 a week is too much for heating have a lot of spare cash! And very tolerant about being ripped off. The average in previous years was £20 over the year with about £30 a week actual in the Winter. Considering the State Pension is £183 and 10m people live in realtive poverty it's a massive increase and unaffordable hence the subsidies. 
    Of course if you have wood burning stoves. solar etc then it's not like for like. 
    Personally I can't afford to heat the whole house. Step out into the hall into an ice box!

    Like for like use of energy just a few months on! At the true prices which we will all be nearer paying after April. Where is all our money going? Directly into the pockets of Shell, BP etc...
    Gas 4p to 14p...



  • NannaH said:
    I’ve used 220kwh of gas this week, so £23 with standing charge.
    50kwh of electricity = £22.

    £45 a week total -
    heating is on at 18° all day 07.00- 20.00,  up to 19° for perhaps 30 mins in the evening.   Set to 14° overnight.  
    I’m using the airfryer + microwave or gas hob around 4 days and electric oven the other 3.  
    3 baths a week (him)  + 3 or 4 showers (me). 
    My DD is £160 a month and I was >£300 in credit in September.   So I’m around £30 over my DD in the winter months but will be way under for 7 months of the year.   With the £67 credit it’s costing me £130 a month through the winter,  which is around £10 a week more than when I was on my very low fix. 
    3 bedroom 1970’s semi with combi boiler. 
    I expect to be £200 in credit come the spring,  unless we have a very cold/damp winter. 
    You must have a super efficient house to use so little gas  - can only be for 1 room not a house. 14 degrees after 8pm? No fun living like a poor person.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    edited 29 December 2022 at 6:45PM
    Any solutions keveen?  Or are you just going to keep pointing out that prices have gone up, which I'm pretty sure we have all noticed?
    And the people who have no spare income and who cannot afford the price increases most definitely will have noticed right from the start.  Really don't think they need the OP to point it out for them.
  • Any solutions keveen?  Or are you just going to keep pointing out that prices have gone up, which I'm pretty sure we have all noticed?
    It's strange how many people have accepted a new high price norm and seem to think it's OK and affordable! And aren't angry about where their money is going. We must not accept it passively. 

    What to do soon is to vote out the idiots and try a new lot (yes possibly the same) who will if we can believe any politician, introduce reforms to the market system. The only power we have is every 5 years and of course making it clear to our MPs that we are not happy with the way things are run. We don't get any benefit from cheap renewables as the price of their electricity is inflated to the highest gas price level that sets the price of electricity. another rigged system. It won't change unless people express their discontent. The They Work for You website is a great easy place to contact your MP. If they think we are happy they won't do anything.
    Plus I'm getting a multi-fuel stove for next year...
  • So no solutions then - just "be angry".  Good to know.
  • keveen said:
    NannaH said:
    I’ve used 220kwh of gas this week, so £23 with standing charge.
    50kwh of electricity = £22.

    £45 a week total -
    heating is on at 18° all day 07.00- 20.00,  up to 19° for perhaps 30 mins in the evening.   Set to 14° overnight.  
    I’m using the airfryer + microwave or gas hob around 4 days and electric oven the other 3.  
    3 baths a week (him)  + 3 or 4 showers (me). 
    My DD is £160 a month and I was >£300 in credit in September.   So I’m around £30 over my DD in the winter months but will be way under for 7 months of the year.   With the £67 credit it’s costing me £130 a month through the winter,  which is around £10 a week more than when I was on my very low fix. 
    3 bedroom 1970’s semi with combi boiler. 
    I expect to be £200 in credit come the spring,  unless we have a very cold/damp winter. 
    You must have a super efficient house to use so little gas  - can only be for 1 room not a house. 14 degrees after 8pm? No fun living like a poor person.
    If someone IS a "poor person" - they have no choice... 

    Also on the heading of "have no choice" - many people on here have "accepted" the increased prices because they firstly don't have a choice about it if they wish to heat their homes and don't have the financial privilege (or are unable for other reasons) to install a multi-fuel stove, solar panels etc, and secondly because they understand the reasons why prices have increased - in much the same way as they understand that milk has increased in price because the costs to the dairy farmers have increased. A little understanding of reasons can go a long way to smoothing over the stress levels.
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  • MattMattMattUK
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    edited 9 April 2024 at 2:05PM
    Any solutions keveen?  Or are you just going to keep pointing out that prices have gone up, which I'm pretty sure we have all noticed?
    It's strange how many people have accepted a new high price norm and seem to think it's OK and affordable! And aren't angry about where their money is going. We must not accept it passively. 
    The markets are international, if we do not pay the price on the international markets then no one will supply us and the lights will go out. We can either accept that, or we can have a tantrum, having a tantrum will not keep the lights on.
    keveen said:
    What to do soon is to vote out the idiots and try a new lot (yes possibly the same) who will if we can believe any politician, introduce reforms to the market system. 
    What "reforms to the market system" do you suggest? How do we reform an international hydrocarbons market? How do we reform Russia's warmongering? 
    keveen said:
    The only power we have is every 5 years and of course making it clear to our MPs that we are not happy with the way things are run. 
    We might be able to change governments, but they are still limited by reality. They cannot magic up energy to keep the lights on so it does not matter who is in power, they are still constrained by energy supplies.
    [Deleted User] said:
    We don't get any benefit from cheap renewables as the price of their electricity is inflated to the highest gas price level that sets the price of electricity. another rigged system.
    Who is this "we"? Those who paid for and built the renewable generation capacity benefit from it financially, those who use the electricity benefit because it keeps the lights on. Do you mean that you do not gain personally from something you have not paid for?
    [Deleted User] said:
    It won't change unless people express their discontent. 
    So, your proposal is what, a tantrum?
    [Deleted User] said:
    The They Work for You website is a great easy place to contact your MP. If they think we are happy they won't do anything.
    They almost certainly do not think the electorate is happy, they are aware that many of them are going to lose their seats at the next election, none of that means that they can come up with a magic solution to make energy from nothing.
    Plus I'm getting a multi-fuel stove for next year...
    Lots of people have already made the same decision, so much so that the cost of solid fuels is expected to go through the roof, to the point that unless one has one's own woodland it will likely cost more than gas per kWh.
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